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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.

I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.

I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.

I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.

I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.

Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.

Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.

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when i say helpin the neighborhood i meen like those neighborhoods where like kids are starving and shit

and if i get a good job main alot of money then like work for a couple of years et alot of money saved up and start helpin out people

and maybe it wont work fightin the government from the inside but anything to fix all the shit were going through as kids and adults because of the government and shit is worth it

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I'm not saying you shouldn't try, it is a noble goal. I just don't think it would work well.
12-01-2006 10:24 AM
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i really dont crae if it woulndt wokr WELL

as long as some people get helped out who really need it

alot of kids in the world are starving, suffering from diseases that people wont cure because the parents dont have enough money, or living on the streets

thats messed up

i just wanna help out

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12-01-2006 10:35 AM
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Then go for it!
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get a job with doctors without borders or some group like that. they go to all those really poor places and give out meds and vaccines, stuff like that. and they sent me free address labels! Biggrin

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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Rebelnerd Wrote:get a job with doctors without borders or some group like that. they go to all those really poor places and give out meds and vaccines, stuff like that. and they sent me free address labels! Biggrin

yea i like those doctors who go out and help them and stuff

i dont like those fucks who say that well since you dont have enough money we cant help you

thats like askin a pregnant poor woman to come up with a 1000 dollars for them to give birth to there child

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yeah that's pretty gay. But there isn't really anything doctors can do. They need money to help patients so it is out of their hands. Canada has free medical care, but (and i'm not an expert) i believe that also presents problems.
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thoughtmaker Wrote:yeah that's pretty gay. But there isn't really anything doctors can do. They need money to help patients so it is out of their hands. Canada has free medical care, but (and i'm not an expert) i believe that also presents problems.

how would that present problems

everyone that needs help gets it like they desereve

and if the doctors dont like the pay or someting then maybe they shouldnt be doctors

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you cannot really fight the goverment from the inside

but you can maybe set up a political party and let it be voteable. i will try that so i can change things and some teachers do support me with it because some of them know me good and know i have a change. but sowell just do what you wish

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AAAAAAAAHH! pleeeeese don't be like Ralph Nader, with that Bush-helping, vote-wasting third party crap!

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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Go out and help the neighbourhood, don't get sucked into politics. All politics does is waste time that should be used to give power back to the people.
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Agreed. While I don't mean to make community service and reach-out programs my main career, I definitely plan to have it as a sideline. Although I have thought about being a psychiatrist.

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well im not goin to just start out as a community helper ima start like witha job and comtinue on for a while and help as much as possible while still taking care of my needs and my familys needs

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Quote:how would that present problems

everyone that needs help gets it like they desereve

and if the doctors dont like the pay or someting then maybe they shouldnt be doctors

Like i said, i'm expert on the matter, ut from my understanding, the problem is that because so many people get medical attention, it also takes a lot longer for those people to get that help they need.
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no not even that dudeman

im syain all these people are dyin and we arnt doin shit to fuckin help them

and im sick of it

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The main problem is actually that hospitals and those with a career in medicine don't make much money when it's universal. A lack of money makes for limited room, machinery, and services. Like my Dad happened to do all of his chemo treatment and transplants in the Detroit hospital and I remember my Mom saying that a lot of people had to come over from Canada to use some of the more advanced equipment. Chances are if they didn't live so close to the border, people seeking really serious or rare treatments might just end up "lucking out". [Not to make Canada sound bad or anything...]

I'm actually for universal healthcare. I believe it's a right, not a privelage. But there are reasons people think up to not provide it.

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well maybe some way they could take like 2 doctors out of every hospital and help

just saying random thoughts

i meen there has to be more than at least 2 hospitals in every state right?

so if we take like 2 out of every hospital (that want to go and help) then we'll have more than enough help and maybe it could make a difference

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This is what happened in Catalonia when medicine was socialized and anarchized during the Spanish Revolution.

Quote:Distributed throughout Catalonia were twenty-seven towns with a total of thirty-sex health centres conducting services so thoroughly that every village, every hamlet, every isolated peasant in the mountains, every woman, every child, anywhere, received adequate, up-to-date medical care. In each of the nine zones there was a central syndicate and a Control Committee located in Barcelona. Every department was autonomous within its own sphere. But this autonomy was not synonymous with isolation. The Central Committee in Barcelona, chosen by all the sections, met once a week with one delegate from each section to deal with common problems and to implement the general plan.
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thats what we need to be doing

all over the world

depending how big the state and or town is

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We need to, but governments and business would not allow it. To do it we would have to smash the state and kill capitalism.
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oh

seems like a good idea though

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Although I do understand that if you're doing something that you don't like, then move on to what interests you the most and just go for it, let's face it - you'll have to do a lot of crappier things when you grow up because action becomes a necessity. At such an early age, it is vital that students understand the value of character and perseverance in which they will be forced to do things they hate doing. Again, I do respect the decision of people skipping schools, but think about it, if you quit here because you don't feel happy anymore, what happens when you encounter things that don't make you happy in the future? I guess what I'm saying is that you should only skip school because you have a concrete and full-proof plan of what to do with your life.
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Thoughtmaker:
I fully support your idea of dropping out.
However, I think you need more time to think about it, and you need to do more research.

Order a copy of the Teenage Liberation Handbook and read it.

If you can, find some books by John Holt, and read them.

Look up unschooling, homeschooling, charter schools, and see what's available in your area, what you'd like to do, and what you'd be able to do.

Think about what would make you most happy, and what you'd do with the freedom you'd have out of school.

Cultivate your interests.

Really, the biggest thing in my opinion is to order a copy of The Teenage Liberation Handbook.
It explains unschooling/free learning very well as well as explaining many ways to get out of school or at least lessen the burden.

Best of luck. Biggrin

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interiordesignr Wrote:Although I do understand that if you're doing something that you don't like, then move on to what interests you the most and just go for it, let's face it - you'll have to do a lot of crappier things when you grow up because action becomes a necessity. At such an early age, it is vital that students understand the value of character and perseverance in which they will be forced to do things they hate doing. Again, I do respect the decision of people skipping schools, but think about it, if you quit here because you don't feel happy anymore, what happens when you encounter things that don't make you happy in the future? I guess what I'm saying is that you should only skip school because you have a concrete and full-proof plan of what to do with your life.

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Woo! more trolls.

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Loxor Wrote:Woo! more trolls.
Why the hell do they all come when I'm away from the forums for little more than a day? o.0.o.0.o.0
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