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The Meaning Of Life
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The Meaning Of Life

Personally, I don't think life has a specific meaning, it's just a bunch of events that happen.

What do you think the menaing of life is?
12-05-2006 11:01 AM
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Try and be nice to people, avoid eating fat, read a good book every now and then, get some walking in, and try and live together in peace and harmony with people of all creeds and nations.
12-05-2006 11:03 AM
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purpose of life? to stay alive as long as possible and keep the species alive as long as possible.

metaphysical people, flame away.

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Toucanman Wrote:42

I hated that movie!! Mad Grindteeth Bored Brickwall Censored
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The book trilogy is good.
12-05-2006 11:57 AM
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When I saw the movie,I wasn't allowed to fall asleep because it would seem rude.I was bashing my head against the cinema wall as soon as the first word was said!!
12-05-2006 12:33 PM
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Try and understand the earth we have. Try to be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem (as annoying as that phrase gets). Just live it, don't take anything too seriously, and try to do something nice. It doesn't have to be grand, it just has to make a difference in someone else's life.

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12-05-2006 12:39 PM
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Happy Camper Wrote:Try and understand the earth we have. Try to be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem (as annoying as that phrase gets). Just live it, don't take anything too seriously, and try to do something nice. It doesn't have to be grand, it just has to make a difference in someone else's life.

nice thinking

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i don't think we'll ever know until we die. I look at it like this, if i die and there is nothing than my life had no meaning, but i won't care because i'm dead, or there will be something after life giving my life meaning but since i don't know what will happen after death i think the meaning of life is to live life the way we want.
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It's probably a test to see if your soul is worthy enough to ascend to Heaven.

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the meaning of life is happieness
to be truly happy
so happy that nothing else matters
but to know what truly makes u happy u have to also know urself
to truly know ur self
to embrace everything about urserlf good and bad
to proclaim ur flaws and ur advanteges from the roof tops *ok maybe thats a bad idea cus ull be arrested for disturbing the peace so i guess deep meditation would be good too*

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yea i do practice that
i often lay awake at night contemplating about things like that
all i really want from life is happieness

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awsome thanks

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well i just do that i dunno why
anyway notice i havent done that in like 2-3 weeks *theres a reason for that Biggrin *
anyway i think very deep thoughts
its just often things i cant put into words
but i contemplate meaning a few times a week
when i go to bed i have to lay there for a few hours before i can go to sleep *plenty of thinkin time there*
and when i wake up i lay there for about an hour before gettin up
plus all the daydreaming
so i kinda think about everything

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I would agree except for the embracing your flaws. I believe one should wear one's flaws on their sleeve. I think it's important we be aware of them, accept them as a part of us, and then try to reach a balance where we can fine-tune ourselves to be better people. I guess that's embracing them in a way.

Heh...the funny thing is I think I do embrace my flaws a bit too much. So I shouldn't be talking. Happy Camper can't help blaming herself for everything. >.<

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by embracing ur flaws u prove u have a concious
all beings are flawed
cus if u dont have them ur nothing but a machine *a well tuned machine but still a machine*
by embracing ur flaws ur embracing ur humanity

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Yes, I agree with that. I can't tell if I'm getting so caught up in the exact wording that I agree with what you're trying to say or if I'm somehow miscomprehending what you're trying to say. But as long as I hear embracing humanity, I think I can pretty much dig it.

Maybe it's the embracing of the struggle of humanity that I would put an emphasis on...

HC's Inner Voice: Maybe that's just your damn superiority complex that you should pay less attention to.

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im saying anything without flaws cannot exist
cus who defines perfection you, no ,me, no
there is no absolute perfect
its all a matter of opinion therefore where all wrong and therefor imperfect
but these imperfections mean where working correctly
so where working well in our own eyes but we still strive for improvement
the same aplies to everyone

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The Wandering Soul Wrote:It's probably a test to see if your soul is worthy enough to ascend to Heaven.

Who says heaven exists?
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Lots of people.
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I'm not atheist or anything,not that there is anything wrong with that!!,but just because alot of people go with an idea,it doesn't necessarily make it true...
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The only way I can see heaven being proved is if three things happen, 1) you die (clinically and legally); 2) you have an out of body experience while you are dead; and 3) you gain information that would not normally be available to you. Actually this wouldn't prove it, but it would make heaven/afterlife plausible.

I have read accounts and studies of OOBEs that have had #2 and #3 but were not clinically dead, which raises the possibility of it being a phenomena of the mind. Combining OOBEs with reports of spontaneous (i.e. not coerced or under hypnosis) remembrance of past lives, and subsequent verification of the accounts, has led me to believe that an afterlife is plausible. The only way I would fully believe in an afterlife if I have one of the events I listed above.
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Hopefully there is an afterlife,but if it's the heaven and hell idea I'm goin straight to hell!!It'll be a bitch if there's nothing after death,just...death
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Hell sucks but it isn't a place of fire and brimstone. Hell is being born on a planet populated by destructive idiots who cannot do anything right, even help each other. Seeing as I believe in reincarnation, for me THIS is the afterlife. Fortunately we are not here forever.
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Kirby Wrote:I believe in reincarnation, for me THIS is the afterlife.

same here

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"Hell is other people." --Jean-Paul Sartre [The Exit]

But personally I have to follow the belief that "Heaven can be other people too." --Dan Miller [Blue Like Jazz]

This doesn't change my belief in an afterlife. They're simply quotes and perceptions of heaven and hell that I happen to like. Because as much as I absolutely cherish The Exit, in all reality I think that hell would be just out of reach of something. It isn't going to be fire. It's going to be lonelyness, deprivation, and abandonment. Dan Miller uses a short story about an astronaut getting lost in space and endlessly orbiting the earth, with home in sight but just out of reach. He could see people and get peeks at the life they lived but he could never reach out and talk with them. He was left to dwell alone without anyone else in the void of space.

I think that's sort of a better picture of hell. Although the idea of hell being a lobby area is so much more entertaining and ironic.

But that's only the guess/idea that I like to go with. I don't claim any part of this to be truth.

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"[Those] who find themselves in Hell will be chastised by the scourge of love. How cruel and bitter this torment of love will be! For those who understand that they have sinned against love, undergo greater suffering than those produced by the most fearful tortures." - St. Isaac of Syria
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MEH!!!!
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