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that's ridiculous. there are some things that the human mind just can't handle. it doesn't mean you're weak, it just means you're human. they have drugs, they have scientifically proven brainwashing methods, all kinds of stuff. they follow up on their threats.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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I don't know what I'd do if I was stuck in a place like that. Back when I was 13/14 I know I wouldn't have been mentally strong enough to withstand that sort of thing. Now, I dunno, maybe. I know a lot more now. But I still don't know if I'd make it. I know I wouldn't give in to their shit, though. I'd rather die than become what they want to turn me into. But I wouldn't kill myself. At least, I don't think so. Come to think of it, I'd probably just pass the time thinking happy thoughts or something. Or trying to. But I've never been there, nor do I ever want to... Uhoh

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well, its good to at least think of this kind of thing. we're more at risk for that stuff than most other kids so its probably not a bad idea to have some backup plan in case one of us ended up there.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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yeah those things are just fucked op places

and suicide? no no not yet, i would first kill some of their staff members. and try to kill as much as possible and that they onley can stop me from killing them by killing me.


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see, you've got the right idea. if death is inevitable, don't speed it with suicide. go down fighting.

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Hmm...
*Clones my impenatrable armor and shield, and give the copy to Deruku*
Now he won't go down fighting at all. He's invincible, and he's got tons of weapons in that armor.

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aw no, a topic about torture camps is not going to turn into one of those damn insanity topics! Hammer

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god dammit...ok whatever, but this may call for a split later.

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Alright, I split it.

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* is sad that he may not use his new shiny armor and shield from soul :( )
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Rebelnerd Wrote:that's ridiculous. there are some things that the human mind just can't handle. it doesn't mean you're weak, it just means you're human. they have drugs, they have scientifically proven brainwashing methods, all kinds of stuff. they follow up on their threats.

Brainwashing is one thing.
But if a brat camp or something like that is going to deal with you, then they can't really do much to have you do stuff exept brainwashing...if the beatings fail, they give you drugs.
But to me, a pure body state is what keeps you strong, don't give in to their stupid pills.

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if they make the drugs strong enough, it won't matter whether you want to give in.

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Exactly. The drugs won't brainwash you but they will make you susceptible to brainwashing.
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Rebelnerd Wrote:see, you've got the right idea. if death is inevitable, don't speed it with suicide. go down fighting.

I don't agree.
Suicide is a stupid act indeed, but when you die, taking more lives with you is even more dumb.
If you kill someone that has wronged you, let them die themselves, don't speed up their death with a petty shooting.

If you don't want to speed your death up, then don't speed their's.

But a self defense purpose is a whole different page.

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This very anti-school website is still here Wtf ? Why isn't this place shut down yet Wtf ?

There are reasons why behavior modification schools exist! They exist, because parents might've ran out of ways to deal with their unruly children and speaking from experience, neither reasoning nor time outs would work for most unruly brats I know and those facilities can effectively scare the most unruly children into good, productive, law-abiding citizens. If those children actually died in those places, then it's their own fault they did and I truely believe those same pesky brats deserved death, esp. when they've reject their parents' authority.

Parents and legal caretakers/guardians own their children, until the filthy brats themselves turn 30.
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WELL LOOK WHO IT IS!
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It's what's her name... Emily, is it?

Wow. You'd think she be off flogging her dogs or something. Maybe getting mounted by a great dane?

I got nothin'.
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Mhm.

Hopefully learning the rest of Blood Red SUmmer will make me ignore her.
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Slavemistress. Ive always wondered if you were serious about your posts. They are pretty damn dumb. A parent who cant take care of their own children doesnt deserve to have any children. Something to consider before getting babies.
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Slavemistress Wrote:They exist, because parents might've ran out of ways to deal with their unruly children and speaking from experience, neither reasoning nor time outs would work for most unruly brats I know
All people need freedom to act and to learn. Children are people too. The only way a person becomes truly healthy and self sufficient is by learning from their own free actions. Hitting a child for doing something wrong not only interferes with this freedom but it psychologically scars them.

Quote:it's their own fault they did
It was their fault completely, except for the getting killed part.

Quote:can effectively scare the most unruly children into good, productive, law-abiding citizens
Good, productive, and law-abiding citizens are harmful to society and people but a friend to big business and the government. We gain freedom only when radicals show us the stupidity of our actions and then they inspire us to act.

Slavemistress Wrote:This very anti-school website is still here Wtf ? Why isn't this place shut down yet Wtf ?
I'm not sure, it might be because of a thing called "freedom".
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Come oonnnn guys...

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That is obviously not a troll. It appears to be undead.
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Oh, for fuck- -walks off-
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Madness Wrote:Slavemistress. Ive always wondered if you were serious about your posts. They are pretty damn dumb. A parent who cant take care of their own children doesnt deserve to have any children. Something to consider before getting babies.

A parent gives birth to a child, so it's their natural right to do whatever they desire with it and yes, I'm always serious about my posts.

Quote:All people need freedom to act and to learn. Children are people too. The only way a person becomes truly healthy and self sufficient is by learning from their own free actions. Hitting a child for doing something wrong not only interferes with this freedom but it psychologically scars them.

So, are you implying that we shouldn't punish criminals, because you believe it interferes with their "ability to learn" and their so-called "freedom to act"? That's a very ridiculous statement you've made here. If criminals can't learn from their mistakes, then they need to be severely punished.

Quote:It was their fault completely, except for the getting killed part.

If those pesky brats didn't want to end up at those gulags and die there, then they should've obeyed their elders' authority at all costs.

Quote:Good, productive, and law-abiding citizens are harmful to society and people but a friend to big business and the government. We gain freedom only when radicals show us the stupidity of our actions and then they inspire us to act.

That's one of the most foolish statements you've ever made. Governments and corporations exist for many reasons. Those "radicals" you speak of are probably terrorists, who desire the annihilation of society and civilization altogether.

Toucanman, you're a complete fool! That creature from your disturbing and disgusting picture of yours is a blood-thirsty zombie, not one of those mythical cave-dwelling monsters of Scandinavian forklore.

Parents and legal caretakers/guardians own their children, until the filthy brats themselves turn 30.
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Am I the only one that noticed that last sentence on her post?

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Quote:A parent gives birth to a child, so it's their natural right to do whatever they desire with it
Why does giving birth confer ownership?

Quote:So, are you implying that we shouldn't punish criminals
Actually I am. Punishment creates obedience based on fear and not respect. Punishing creates weak people. I am against prison as punishment and I am very wary of them as places to keep people away from society. The power of government to imprison can be easily abused.

Quote:they should've obeyed their elders' authority at all costs.
You keep insisting that elders are better than youth and that youth should follow their elders orders without complaint or thought. You have insisted this many times but have not shown any proof. Prove it to me.

Quote:Those "radicals" you speak of are probably terrorists, who desire the annihilation of society and civilization altogether.
Like Oliver Cromwell?
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cradle Wrote:...
Am I the only one that noticed that last sentence on her post?

No, I saw it too.
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They only want to destroy gay society.
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