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Learning to be Human
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Learning to be Human

Peter Berger, probably the most significant sociologist and philosopher still alive today, once wrote, "The difference between humans and dogs is that dogs are born knowing how to be dogs."

Although we have natural tendencies that would develop regardless of society, and the more so obvious anthropological markers during the process of becoming an adult human. We are a race that must physically educate our young before they can become what we consider to be an average adult. I'm not talking learning take away's and addition here either. I mean basic verbal speech and often unappreciated complex functions; such as tool using. (i.e. The mastery of the spork)

Why is it the human must be taught? Perhaps it is indicative of our nature, a reassurance to that all encompassing "purpose".. the metaphoric concept of " the culminating intelligence."

Or we can forget about SAT words and focus on the present. Dogs know what to do with themselves. We are endlessly confused...and I want answers. How do we learn what role a human is to play, if there is any?

Some cupid kills with arrows, some with traps.
01-23-2011 02:51 PM
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Re: Learning to be Human

I think that this may be relevant

[Image: adhd_mild.gif] Try it on yourself!
01-26-2011 03:48 AM
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Because of memetics, google it and how memes evolve, it will all make sense then
01-26-2011 03:55 PM
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Because humans have higher thought processes. Surely many of the things humans do animals don't do at all, and are incapable of doing. You might argue that you've seen various animals creating art, and Koko the gorilla knows sign language, and elephants have family units almost as sophisticated as ours. But all of these are learned behaviors, learned either from watching humans, being taught by humans, or being taught by another of the same species by one of the above. What is different about humans is our inventiveness, that is, our ability to solve problems without someone nudging us along. No one taught us how to make fire. We did that. We are, as far as I know, still the only ones who can do that. And of course we'll be confused, since we're the only creatures who do more than copy/paste. Smile Now, there are a bunch of legends and myths and religious stories about how God/Allah/the gods and several more that I don't know the name of taught us what we know, but surely we've refined it to the point of being unrecognizable. I have a mini-heater plugged in my room right now, and it bears no resemblance whatsoever to fire. Anyway, there's probably a bunch of inconsistencies and contradictions in that, but I hope it gives you enough of a starting point to form your own opinions.

Anyway, as for what you should do with yourself, that's completely up to you. You have free will. After this point I'm kind of morally obligated to start spewing religious nonsense about peace and love and happiness, so I'll stop now. Hope this helps!

"I have been allotted months of futility,
and nights of misery have been assigned to me.
When I lie down I think, ‘How long before I get up?’
The night drags on, and I toss and turn until dawn." Job 7:3-4

Both of my parents are teachers. My body is bound, but my mind is free.
01-27-2011 07:54 AM
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