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Kicked out of class for refusing to say The Lords Prayer
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Kicked out of class for refusing to say The Lords Prayer

During one Relgious Studies lesson the teacher made everyone in the class say The Lords Prayer but i refused to do that and when he asked me why i said that i don't beleive in all this praying stuff and that i have my own beliefs, i said that i didn't have a problem with people who wanna pray, if they wanna do that best of luck to them but it's something that i'd rather not do

But then i got kicked out of class because according to the teacher I was being discrespectfull towards God
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This sort of thing annoys me. Forcing people to pray doesn't accomplish anything worthwhile. And then when someone doesn't want to, then that's disrespectful to God? Yeah right. I think it's more disrespectful to God to force people to pray when they don't want to.

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Interesting that it happened in religious studies class. You'd think the teacher might understand that not all religions include a belief in God or anything in the Lord's Prayer.
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Phillip, what country are you in? In the US, I believe the teacher would be out of line by forcing students to pray in school. In a religious studies class, it might be reasonable to require students to read it, but forcing them to recite it seems wrong.

Check out this sort of related article: a student recorded his history teacher teaching his students "evolution and the Big Bang were not scientific, that dinosaurs were aboard Noah’s ark, and that only Christians had a place in heaven." His parents are considering suing the school for violating church-state separation.

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Kirby Wrote:Interesting that it happened in religious studies class. You'd think the teacher might understand that not all religions include a belief in God or anything in the Lord's Prayer.

Really! Seems weird to kick somebody out for it.
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Sue your teacher or something like that. It should be understood that not everyone has the same religion.
By the way, what country do you live in?

In my school (I'm an atheist) , during moral studies, the first chapter is belief in god. The textbook puts that if you believe in god, you won't do bad things like smoking , drinking and gambling.So she is implying that I do those things. (Actually , there is nothing wrong with drinking and gambling . Drinking is OK in moderation and gambling is alright if treated as entertainment only.)
In the textbook, there are also questions like if everyone in the world had no religion, how will the world be like ? She will give the answer : If the world had no religion, everyone will be immoral and the crime rate will be very high.

So much religious discrimination going on in schools today.
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BigWolf Wrote:Mention the Crusades.

Most infamous campaign of ethnic cleansing, also Christians were the perpetrators (if you didn't already know). It'll shut her up.

If not, there's many, many more religious ethnic cleansing campaigns throughout history.

Yeah, it's just damn ironic that there are a shitload of genocides, mass suicides, massacres and general killings that at least some people call "The work of god". Mention Jonestown, that'll also shut her up....however, the Leader of Jonestown...wait.....yeah, go ahead and mention it. The leader and people of Jonestown were just really radical christians, basically.
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In my math class today, a kid got kicked out for asking me for a pencil!

That teacher is a nutcase.
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Cosbydaf Wrote:In my math class today, a kid got kicked out for asking me for a pencil!

That teacher is a nutcase.

Think that's bad? I got a detention for asking for the time, saying the word "Kevin", and THEN saying NOTHING.

I'm so glad I don't have her anymore.
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Toucanman Wrote:
Cosbydaf Wrote:In my math class today, a kid got kicked out for asking me for a pencil!

That teacher is a nutcase.

Think that's bad? I got a detention for asking for the time, saying the word "Kevin", and THEN saying NOTHING.

I'm so glad I don't have her anymore.

Sheesh!

Then again, getting away from such a crazy ass teacher doesn't seem like much of a punishment! Biggrin
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Cosbydaf Wrote:
Toucanman Wrote:
Cosbydaf Wrote:In my math class today, a kid got kicked out for asking me for a pencil!

That teacher is a nutcase.

Think that's bad? I got a detention for asking for the time, saying the word "Kevin", and THEN saying NOTHING.

I'm so glad I don't have her anymore.

Sheesh!

Then again, getting away from such a crazy ass teacher doesn't seem like much of a punishment! Biggrin

More like a trophey.

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Qindarka Wrote:Sue your teacher or something like that. It should be understood that not everyone has the same religion.
By the way, what country do you live in?

In my school (I'm an atheist) , during moral studies, the first chapter is belief in god. The textbook puts that if you believe in god, you won't do bad things like smoking , drinking and gambling.So she is implying that I do those things. (Actually , there is nothing wrong with drinking and gambling . Drinking is OK in moderation and gambling is alright if treated as entertainment only.)
In the textbook, there are also questions like if everyone in the world had no religion, how will the world be like ? She will give the answer : If the world had no religion, everyone will be immoral and the crime rate will be very high.

So much religious discrimination going on in schools today.

Grrrr...the old "You have to be religious to be moral" campaign.

Happy Camper is frowning.

Happy Camper is curious to the context of Phillip's situation though. Was this a christian school or a public school where they offer a sort of comparative religions class? If it was a public school I guess the only grounds they would have had to kick you out of class would be lack of participation. Maybe you should confront her how prayers are too sacred to just recite. Or if she meant for you to actually pray, how she had no right to assume you weren't just as engaged as the other students. An honest reaction actually probably is a better way to respond to direction such as that if the whole goal is to have a better understanding of religion.

Happy Camper will pray that God will knock some into your teacher. Giggle

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well when i was in green oaks *juvenile holding area* they had optional bible class
i was fine with that
what pissed me off is that before meals we HAD to say grace to god
well on the first day i didnt say it instead i just stood as everyone else bowed and prayed
ill never forget what the gaurd said to me
:Gaurd: why didnt you pray boy
:Me: because i dont believe in god *faint gasps heard throughout room*
:Gaurd: i dont care if you dont believe in god, when your here you pray
:Me: thats illegal
:Gaurd: well until you pray nobodys gonna eat
:Gaurd 2: *nodding head in aproval
:Me: ugh fine asshole
:Gaurd: ok everyone lets try again
:Everyone But Me: *bows head* god is good god is great let us thank him for our food bow our heads we all are fed thank you lord for daily bread amen
:Me: while everyone is praying im talking under my breath so it looks like im praying* god is retard god is a hypocrite these people are idiots i know that if i dont at least look like im praying that this gaurd will tell the judge that i attacked someone here *i didnt* i hate this guy

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If I get started on religion ill get banned from these forums....and I need to have some more essays critizied first.

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SoulRiser Wrote:Noo
This sort of thing annoys me. Forcing people to pray doesn't accomplish anything worthwhile. And then when someone doesn't want to, then that's disrespectful to God? Yeah right. I think it's more disrespectful to God to force people to pray when they don't want to.
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Vatman Wrote:If I get started on religion ill get banned from these forums....and I need to have some more essays critizied first.

you won't get banned
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man, I used to go to a Catholic School (I changed to a public school last year) and I never used to pray, the teachers didn't care but the students got really angry at me for it, people there thought I was a satanist because I listen to Marilyn Manson, idiots.
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Pyrokinetic_Punker Wrote:man, I used to go to a Catholic School (I changed to a public school last year) and I never used to pray, the teachers didn't care but the students got really angry at me for it, people there thought I was a satanist because I listen to Marilyn Manson, idiots.

Hahaa, man, that must've sucked. Glad to hear you're out of it.
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marilyn manson.

marilyn manson.

marilyn manson.

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youvebeenthunderstruck Wrote:it's like bowling for columbine

<random snippets>

marilyn manson.

marilyn manson.

marilyn manson.

marilyn manson has caused...

marilyn manson.

marilyn...

manson.
Wasn't it said that dude was a Satanist? If he is, I don't give a shit. I like his music, even though he's friggin creepy.

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Marilyn Manson isn't a Satanist, he just is part of that rock scene that uses Satanic imagery. Very few bands that use Satanic imagery are actually Satanic. It is more likely a band is Asatruar than Satanists.
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Kirby Wrote:Marilyn Manson isn't a Satanist, he just is part of that rock scene that uses Satanic imagery. Very few bands that use Satanic imagery are actually Satanic. It is more likely a band is Asatruar than Satanists.
Alrighty....

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well he's not lol
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youvebeenthunderstruck Wrote:well he's not lol
I don't give a shit. I just heard that he was.

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thats a not right they should have no right to do that, i personally had somewhat the same problem one day, i didnt stand for the national anthem cause i dont beleive in standing for something i dont beleive in and i was sent to the office got a talking too and now they are forcing me to stand and it pisses me the f*** off and they have no right to tell me what i can and cant do.. and yea i respect what u did 110% Biggrin [/u]
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The Wandering Soul Wrote:
SoulRiser Wrote:Noo
This sort of thing annoys me. Forcing people to pray doesn't accomplish anything worthwhile. And then when someone doesn't want to, then that's disrespectful to God? Yeah right. I think it's more disrespectful to God to force people to pray when they don't want to.
*High five*
Amen, sistah!
Agreed. You should never force someone to be religious, it's their choice.
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