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Why?
Why are kids judged on the stupidest little things these days?
As little as the colour of your hair.
If its black, you're clearly depressed and cut your wrists.
If its blonde, you're obviously a tart who sleeps around.
Its like others are telling us what WE are.
"Oh you ARE emo"
"You ARE a slut"
"She IS a loser"
"He IS gay"
Just because you have black/dark hair doesnt make you 'emo'
Just because you wear skirts doesnt make you a slut
Just because you dont socialise with the 'in' croud doesn't make you a loser
Just because you take pride in your looks doesn't make you homosexual
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It is, indeed, a problem. I shave my head, so I *MUST* be a skinhead. Angry!
Perhaps we should complain to the management?
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Not just these days... It was like that at least since 1989 (when I started 1st grade) 
Granted, the whole 'emo' thing didn't seem to exist back then, or they probably would have called me that. They did call me a loser many times though. And stupid, and a geek, and a nerd, and ugly, and ... you get the picture 
And then later on (in a different school), after people stopped picking on me, people who were generally nice to me actually apparently spread rumours about me being lesbian. 
They just do it because it makes them feel better about their own sad and boring lives.
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SoulRiser Wrote:Not just these days... It was like that at least since 1989 (when I started 1st grade)
Granted, the whole 'emo' thing didn't seem to exist back then, or they probably would have called me that. They did call me a loser many times though. And stupid, and a geek, and a nerd, and ugly, and ... you get the picture
And then later on (in a different school), after people stopped picking on me, people who were generally nice to me actually apparently spread rumours about me being lesbian.
They just do it because it makes them feel better about their own sad and boring lives.
Amen.
Simply put: They have nothing to do and are insucure drama whores.
And SOulriser, a Lesbian? ZOMG PASS IT ROUND.
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Stereotyping works in some occasions. The problem comes when people believe in stupid stereotypes and/or they jump to conclusions.
Some stupid stereotype would be the ones due to birth. The Chinese aren't smarter than Americans, it's just that there are ten times more Chinese and therefore ten times more geniuses born in China.
Jumping to conclusions would be when people see someone wearing a swastika and think that person is a Nazi. But I know that the swastika is a symbol that is found throughout the world as a religious icon. It might be that the person is Buddhist or is part of the movement that wants to reclaim the swastika as a symbol of peace. This is more related to ignorance but people could give the benefit of the doubt at least.
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Sterotyping is something our society has adapted as a truth, I know first had how cruel kids can be......i/e 10 years of torment....but ill save my bitching for another time...(being jewish sux btw)
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Kirby Wrote:Some stupid stereotype would be the ones due to birth. The Chinese aren't smarter than Americans, it's just that there are ten times more Chinese and therefore ten times more geniuses born in China.
I kinda disagree. I'm not sure how many people go by number so I can't speak for them but I'd tend to think it's because of the culture
Although on the other hand I'm not sure if most Chinese are smarter than most Americans
If we exclude rednecks
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no, its more than just population. in traditional chinese society the family is most important, so the kids are encouraged from a very young age to learn and work as hard as they can to honor their family. a lot of these kids aren't born geniuses, they're just raised to work a hell of a lot harder than we are.
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I was talking about natural abilities.
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oh. you didn't specify that i don't think
well if you're talking about natural abilities then i agree with you
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Re: Why?
hgielhsa Wrote:Why are kids judged on the stupidest little things these days?
As little as the colour of your hair.
If its black, you're clearly depressed and cut your wrists.
If its blonde, you're obviously a tart who sleeps around.
Its like others are telling us what WE are.
"Oh you ARE emo"
"You ARE a slut"
"She IS a loser"
"He IS gay"
Just because you have black/dark hair doesnt make you 'emo'
Just because you wear skirts doesnt make you a slut
Just because you dont socialise with the 'in' croud doesn't make you a loser
Just because you take pride in your looks doesn't make you homosexual
I agree! At school, it seems like some traitors who were my friends made a law: If you don't talk to the girl you like, you're gay.
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YOU ARE?
rumor mongering, rumor mongering...
kidding, dude 
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I dont understand kids these days.
[this may sound a little judgemental] For example I am classed as being "emo" though I have BROWN hair, but yet there is another girl at school who wears, black skinny legs, has black hair, always has a black jacket on and black converses but yet NOTHING is said about her or she is never ever been called emo.
It's like people just want a reason to bully you.
Whenever someone asks me "You're depressed aye?" or "You slit your wrists dont you?" I simply reply with "FULLY!! HOW'D YOU KNOW!?" with alot of sarcasm in my voice.
It seems to work.
Oh yeah, and about this sounding like a myspace bulletin, these are my own words =]
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I have only been called a nerd in a derogatory manner by one person. He called me a nerd and I admitted that I was. The fact that I admitted it shocked him for some reason. He was an asshole though; he always looked at me in half-sneer half-amusement.
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Re: Why?
hgielhsa Wrote:Why are kids judged on the stupidest little things these days?
As little as the colour of your hair.
If its black, you're clearly depressed and cut your wrists.
If its blonde, you're obviously a tart who sleeps around.
Its like others are telling us what WE are.
"Oh you ARE emo"
"You ARE a slut"
"She IS a loser"
"He IS gay"
Just because you have black/dark hair doesnt make you 'emo'
Just because you wear skirts doesnt make you a slut
Just because you dont socialise with the 'in' croud doesn't make you a loser
Just because you take pride in your looks doesn't make you homosexual
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Sigh just because I'am a big black who does not play sports, jack people or pimp girls but would rather write, play video games or hang out with people who read manga they call me gay, soft and not a real black guy. The fact that I sound like a white guy does not help( my granddads side of my family is white).
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BigWolf Wrote:The notion that black people have to be gangstas is fuckin' retarded in itself. If people can't see that, then I fear for the world's future.
Honestly for saying that thank you.
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People try to screw with me all the time but they are afraid of me because of my low care for humanity (I don't care about things to much and I tend to keep myself on guard alot), the way I dress, and who I hang with ( not alot of black people) mostly gothic people who are okay guys. people tried to call me pokemon because I read manga until I told the guy I would rip his intestantes out and break his head off with it. Man even my dad tried to get me into the football stuff when I first started high school but now he is cool with who I'am.
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Damn kids these days and their subcultural stereotypes.
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Heart of shadows Wrote:Sigh just because I'am a big black who does not play sports, jack people or pimp girls but would rather write, play video games or hang out with people who read manga they call me gay, soft and not a real black guy. The fact that I sound like a white guy does not help( my granddads side of my family is white).
Dude, I hope you'll never play into that gangsta shit.
I know a few black guys that skate and they have been made fun of for it on many occaisions.
"Man, you need to be playin basketball or something."
Do they not know that they are stereotyping themselves?
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Dude I have put up with the black gansta shit for 5 years now through my dads family going into that stuff. I'am not going into it because others did it. this one new guy tried to get popular off messing with me and I grabbed his chain yanked his head down and uppercuted him in the face. Needless to say I ruined his chance of getting popular and hard really fast.
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Just for one day, you should go as gangsta as you can get. Do as ridiculous a caricature as you can do then the next day pretend it never happened.
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