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Did anyone hear if congress decided to give illegal immigrants amnesty so that they won't have to pay back taxes. Oh, wait, they wouldn't have to pay back taxes because they are illegals. The people who are trying to get into this country legally are having to pay taxes, while the one's who are taking the easy way out are getting off scott free. Just wondering what the results were.
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Maybe these immigrants wouldn't have to enter your country if America, Britain, their neighbouring countries sponsored by America, etc. didn't make it too dangerous to live in their old country. No-one would dare invade America - so it's got to be a safe place!
That said though, why shouldn't these immigrants be allowed in? Why is it illegal? Maybe they don't pay taxes. They don't get benefits either, and because they don't officially "exist" as citizens, businesses get away with paying them slave labour wages as they don't have any choice on where else to work.
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HoboBen Wrote:That said though, why shouldn't these immigrants be allowed in? Why is it illegal? Maybe they don't pay taxes. They don't get benefits either, and because they don't officially "exist" as citizens, businesses get away with paying them slave labour wages as they don't have any choice on where else to work.
Exactly why illegal immigration should be discouraged and penalized.
Illegal immigration is bad for us and bad for them. Here's to making legal immigration more accessible.
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hmm, yes. In a way if you live in one of the Englands former Colonies were all illegal immigrants. I don't think the Indians were like Hey cheif these retards dont have visas lets the deport the fuckers. Countries like America, Australia and to a much lesser extent Canada were built by immigrants. Immigration is a good thing. Now i dont want to be seen as some left wingnut so how about the other side to this. Theres poor countries and theres rich countries. The people in the poor countries wont to go live in the rich countries. But what if we just went yea and opened the doors and said anyone who wants in come in. Well the likely scenario is mass exodus of poor countires followed a mass influx (does that make sence?) into rich countries. 1 billion impoverished retards turn up on your door step guess what? They need jobs, homes, food, schools, hospitals... welfare... etc etc. That shit cost cash. Cash thats gonna be taxed out of your pocket. Slowly what was once a rich country now boast one of the lowest standards of living in the world. 20 years later all you tree huggers out there are unemplyed starving on the streets thinking to yourselves maybe this immigration thing was not such a good idea.
So... Im for immigration, totally. But you cant just open the doors... so what to do?
MY IMMIGRATION PLAN.
Firstly you make immigration totally illegal. I mean no ones aloud in, not even for a holiday. Then you have this law where anybody who can get in can stay. So, if your smart, versatile, savvy, resourceful and such and you can sneak your way in then fuck, we'll have ya.
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Sugar Nuts Wrote:MY IMMIGRATION PLAN.
Firstly you make immigration totally illegal. I mean no ones aloud in, not even for a holiday. Then you have this law where anybody who can get in can stay. So, if your smart, versatile, savvy, resourceful and such and you can sneak your way in then fuck, we'll have ya.
That idea is so crazy and wacked that I actually like it  
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Why can't we just get rid of borders?
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Man-made national borders = the state. Can't get rid of borders without getting rid of the state.
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That day will come soon enough, Kirby.
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I want it but I doubt it.
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Oh, don't worry it will happen.
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Not in our lifetime.
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I can see it happening. Basically all of our societal and environmental problems are going to crash down on us within our lifetimes. Climate change, poverty, war, etc. We could intercept these problems and either continue as is or change. If we don't intercept the problems we'll either crash and burn or slowly rebuild.
I can see the seeds of radical social change being established in a decade or two. Hopefully it will bloom into anarchy before we get in real trouble.
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The rreason why there are borders is so that greedy bueracratic politicians can keep there money and no civila\ization can be that large. impossible 2 control. on illegals i say let them come in. they dont get benifits and do our dirty work for us. some1 explain to me y that's bad and i'll cahnge my mind. after all all they are getting is 
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darthmat Wrote:some1 explain to me y that's bad and i'll cahnge my mind. after all all they are getting is
They're just getting ... That's why it's bad.
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but y is it bad for us?
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yes.. if not bad for us y should we ban them?
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We should just nuke Mexico. Then maybe the racists complaining about Mexicans will STFU.
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darthmat Wrote:yes.. if not bad for us y should we ban them?
OK now you're confusing me... so I'm gonna quote your previous post again 
Quote:on illegals i say let them come in. they dont get benifits and do our dirty work for us. some1 explain to me y that's bad and i'll cahnge my mind. after all all they are getting is
The reason that's bad is because they do the dirty work, don't get benefits, and only get - they're getting ripped off.
I don't care whether or not that's bad for "us" (meaning whoever lives in the country legally), but I've heard people complain about illegal immigrants taking jobs away from other people or something. The point is that the immigrants are being screwed over and they have nowhere to turn. But banning them isn't gonna solve that... what will solve it is if it was easier to immigrate legally. And that's been said before, so I'm gonna shut up now
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well if the illegals really want 2 make their lives better then thye should start a union anyways.. i see your point however if this doesn't hurt anyone legally living in america i dont c y the AMERICAN (even if they arent necisarily for the american citizens completeley with bush in command) governemnt should ban them TOUCHE! 
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I am all for LEGAL immigration. I am against ILLEGAL immigration.
Oh and I don't like the fact that pc people over here would go 'omg racist' as soon as I said the second sentence (and be believed, most likely)
Admittedly, I'm omni- and auto-racist (read: I hate everyone, even my OWN race) but still.....
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Kirby Wrote:It's called misanthropy.
What is?
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Trekkie_Aspie Wrote:Kirby Wrote:It's called misanthropy.
What is?
It means you hate humanity. A racist hate someone only because of their race, you sound more like a misanthropist.
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KittyKatBlack Wrote:Trekkie_Aspie Wrote:Kirby Wrote:It's called misanthropy.
What is?
It means you hate humanity. A racist hate someone only because of their race, you sound more like a misanthropist.
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wow... well the easiest human to kill is yourself so... have fun!
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darthmat Wrote:wow... well the easiest human to kill is yourself so... have fun!
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im telling trekkie that if he hates humanity so much he should start with an easy target.....
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darthmat Wrote:im telling trekkie that if he hates humanity so much he should start with an easy target.....
Hmmm....wrong pronoun.
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