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are there any adults that are successful on this site?
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guitarniac
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are there any adults that are successful on this site?
other than soulriser (am i right) and the doc? or is it just a bunch of kids bitching about how they hate math.
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SoulRiser
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That depends on your definitions of "adult" and "success" 
I'm not an adult! I swear!
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1) The difference between adults and children should be based on the maturity necessary for that dividing line in society. In other words, not a razor-edge line but dependent on the individual. There are people who though they are in their 20s are very immature and should not be heavily relied upon. There are also people who are in their teens who I would vote for if I believed in voting.
2) I am 17 and I firmly believe I am as capable as any 18+ year old. I may not have as much "life experience" as adults but neither do 18 year olds. I have a job and I am earning my own money (though it pays too little), I have plans for my future (though they could change), and I take full responsibility of my actions. I have found that honesty is much better than lying, even to teachers. Instead of making up an oft-heard excuse I tell the full truth and show that nothing that school can do to me will ever stop me from living my own life.
3) I don't hate any of the subjects I am taking, I am against the present school system because it is legally and socially mandatory and it is not designed to promote free thinking and genuine freedom of learning. I say legally and socially because I am legally able to drop out of school but social sanctions are present.
4) Math is awesome.
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1) Fuck adults
2) My teachers are all awesome. For different reasons.
3) You sound like an ageist asshole whom I would like to kick in thenuts.
4) Math is easy.
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I don't know. I'm an adult. Just barely. And I guess I'm as sucessfull as anyone else my age. Maybe slightly more so. I don't know.
What does it matter?
Let's do the time warp again!
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We don't all bitch on this site about school I mean its good to get the pain of school out and share among others who have felt its sting but we talk about other things. Just because we talk bad about school does not mean we don't have lives or plans for the future and like kirby said age does not mean maturity and success is how you feel about your life not by how happy your family is for your career, how rich you are or that shit. Damn where did this life talk come from.
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LittleFreak14 Wrote:1) Fuck adults
Hey! That's not nice!
Yeah, I guess I'm fairly successful (finally). It was a longish time coming. 38 years old. College professor. I'm sure others on this site could tell you more.
I got nothin'.
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I'm very successful but not by other people's standards. 
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Doc Johnson Wrote:LittleFreak14 Wrote:1) Fuck adults
Hey! That's not nice!
Yeah, I guess I'm fairly successful (finally). It was a longish time coming. 38 years old. College professor. I'm sure others on this site could tell you more.
Im pretty sure she excluded you in that statement.
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im just curious because i want this site to have some legitimacy, so it can grow into something more than just us bitching about stupid shit. I think if we had some accomplished people on here it would give us a better stance against others.
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guitarniac Wrote:iI think if we had some accomplished people on here it would give us a better stance against others.
Who do you mean by "others"?
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yeah pretty much pro school advocates.
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guitarniac Wrote:im just curious because i want this site to have some legitimacy, so it can grow into something more than just us bitching about stupid shit. I think if we had some accomplished people on here it would give us a better stance against others.
True. That might make the "others" listen to us. But maybe it's the "other" people's whole notion of what makes someone "accomplished" that is part of the problem in the first place...
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Yes, I am an adult.
Yes, I am fairly successful (Manager of finance and litigations for Derbex Industries, California)
I hated school, and I look at the school System today and am disgusted by it. I am fully aware of all the problems that perfectly normal people have with the "educational system" not just here, but everywhere around the world. I used to live in the UK, it's exactly the same there, and let me tell you, it's no different than it was 20 years ago. So, I'm on your side. Please don't think that because I'm old and am not in full time education anymore that I'm out of touch. I'm a Governor at the school that my kids go to, and frequently observe lessons without the teacher knowing, and see things which the Government would rather have not have us see.
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Cool, welcome to SS
It's always good to get some older people joining here as well
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