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Elfy
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Ever get to the point of arguing something...
...where you really can't be fucked anymore.
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Quote:anarchy is plain stupid. You may have all the positive freedoms in the world, but what about the negative ones? The state's there to protect them, and the separation of judiciary from legislative is a check on its' power.You give yourself t...he right to use force, you give every other thug the right to spread their beliefs by the sword- an anarchist society results in those freedoms being encroached upon by whoever has the biggest group of thugs.
If you think you're not free, you really don't know how good you have it. You want to know what a real police state looks like? Try North Korea, Stalin's Russia, Hitler's Germany. And you, a white middle class student have the gall to complain about oppression when you're completely free to express yourself both through voice as you are doing right now as well as through the vote? fuck off, seriously.
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Quote:I give up, the "anarchy is plain stupid" hit the nail in the coffin, although I'm not surprised what with the media and schools doing their best to completely bend what anarchism means. There is really no point in arguing when our views oppose eachother. I tried to remain as civil as possible and I got "fuck off".
I just thought, fuck this.
Not gonna go into any deatils, just some people are so tiring to get my point across too that it isn't worth my effort.
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Re: Ever get to the point of arguing something...
It happened to me a few times. Then I just stopped bothering to argue or explain anything to anyone anymore. 99% of the time it isn't worth the effort.
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Re: Ever get to the point of arguing something...
2 things you never argue about with people. Religion, and Politics. No matter how persuasive your argument you will never change the other persons mind.
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Re: Ever get to the point of arguing something...
Sounds like when I'm arguing with my parents. If I start to win they literally go: "WELL I DON'T FUCKING CARE. THIS IS MY HOUSE" Can never win. Ever.
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Re: Ever get to the point of arguing something...
CAPTAIN OF A DEBATE TEAM IS HERE TO SAY:
Giving up on the argument means you lost. It means you can't counter the argument they threw at you, and nothing is finished until one person is convinced otherwise or you run out of time to debate the issue.
saying "anarchy is stupid" is stupid in itself. It means nothing if they have nothing to back it up. look at the supports for their argument, chop them down, and then build your own argument with stronger supports. You don't stop until there is an irrefutable stone temple of an argument built.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmXMA34CeoQ
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Re: Ever get to the point of arguing something...
Jesusaurisrex Wrote:CAPTAIN OF A DEBATE TEAM IS HERE TO SAY:
Giving up on the argument means you lost. It means you can't counter the argument they threw at you, and nothing is finished until one person is convinced otherwise or you run out of time to debate the issue.
saying "anarchy is stupid" is stupid in itself. It means nothing if they have nothing to back it up. look at the supports for their argument, chop them down, and then build your own argument with stronger supports. You don't stop until there is an irrefutable stone temple of an argument built.
Or you can stop giving a shit, Christ. If you derive that much satisfaction from driving someone insane/angry/bored, then you really need to get a hobby D:
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