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Honestly, the whole "non-conformity" thing is kind of ridiculous. Most everybody conforms in some way, and it's not really bad. Sometimes the majority knows what they're doing. Not everyone is a "sheeple" and most everybody has a culture they identify with and whose traditions they follow.

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I think it's important for everyone to conform to some degree. Face it, if we had radicallists around every corner, society would not function. We all need to be the same, on one level or another, so that we can relate to one another and fit in. Back when we lived in tribes, or small towns, it was important to fit in, or otherwise be outcast. Nobody wanted someone so completely different from themself living next door and would push for the wierdo to be outcast. And to be outcast at that time was to almost certainly die, unless you found another tribe to live with.

So, in our past, it was important.

I think it was proved by some psychologist that people don't WANT to stand out... very much. Nobody wants to be singled out, called out, whatever-ed out of the group. Think about it - when the teacher poses a question to the entire class, and nobody says anything in the first few miliseconds, chances are, nobody will say anything for quite a while, because they don't want to stand out. In a few cases, someone will look to rise above and beyond, or stand out way to the side just to prove a point or change something, but, notice how it doesn't happen very often.

However, now that we live in a society where you won't necessarily die if you don't fit in, people are now, more than ever, sharing their ideas, and trying to break away from the group. By dressing differently, having different ideas and finding reward in actually being different, because god knows that you'll blend in and be forgotten if your not, you may find that you actually get farther in todays world. Not to say that anyone should be a wierdo, but, the world is looking for people who make a difference.

Standing out in a good way is the way to go to get ahead and be remembered.

However, I have to agree, people who call themselves non-conformists are just people pretending to stand out. To really stand out, other people have to call YOU a non-conformist, and they'll hardly really ever use that word. They'll use, wierdo. Or, over-achiever, or something percieved as negative. Which isn't very cool. But, hey, it's the wierdo who will change the world.

Or try, anyway.

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Yuss. Thank you, you hit it right on. Society cannot function unless people are the same to some degree. Independent thought should be encouraged, but people have to be somewhat similar to actually function in a group. Simple as that.

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Kirby Wrote:The problem is not conforming or non-conforming. The problem is trying to do either.
No one said it better.

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Darthmat Wrote:
Kirby Wrote:The problem is not conforming or non-conforming. The problem is trying to do either.
No one said it better.

Thanks Darth, for quoting that. I must have missed it on my first read through - but both of you are right. There is nothing more annoying than somebody who tries to be something that they're not.

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Aviator Wrote:There is nothing more annoying than somebody who tries to be something that they're not.

What if a person finds happiness in not being like anyone else, even if the differences themselves don't bring happiness?

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Aviator Wrote:There is nothing more annoying than somebody who tries to be something that they're not.

What if a person finds happiness in not being like anyone else, even if the differences themselves don't bring happiness?

As long as they're confident and don't show regret or hesitation in any of their actions people will find a way to love them. Just like Confucious said.

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Mystery Wrote:As long as they're confident and don't show regret or hesitation in any of their actions people will find a way to love them. Just like Confucious said.

Exactly.

As long as they are themselves, even if they are natuarally "out there", it's alright. I mean, there are some people who are naturally different from everyone else, more drastically than anyone else. And that's ok. As long as they arn't doing it just to get attention or just to be labeled a certain way, it's cool. They are themselves, and nothing is better than that.

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