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Teacher "relations" with students

The big buzz at my school was pictures of a teacher getting a little too close for comfort to a student at my school, the teacher is no longer aloud to coach any girl sports teams, Jesus, just when you think you know somebody eh?

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"Too close for comfort"... when everyone's paranoid, I guess that's not very close at all. Razz

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Too close for comfort for the student or popular mores? If she wanted it, it doesn't matter.
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Well, they were making out, she was 17
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i dont get y ts wrong for teachers t have realtions with students if they both want it

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payback123 Wrote:Well, they were making out, she was 17
That doesn't answer my question. Did she feel like it was too close for comfort?
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"That doesn't answer my question. Did she feel like it was too close for comfort?"



Oh no, she was completely willing
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Well there ya go. It was consensual so it doesn't matter.

The big fuss about contact like this is the potential for abuse. It is assumed that if the "victim" says it was consensual they are brainwashed or scared.
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darthmat Wrote:i dont get y ts wrong for teachers t have realtions with students if they both want it

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^^ it's not wrong. the law is wrong.
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not this shit again...
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what do you mean?
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The big fuss is the whole 'position of trust' thing.

They basically assumed that they were having a relationship, I bet.

Because of the position of trust, the consentual age is 18.

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They both wanted it. The law sucks and completely discriminates against minors.
Fuck the law and fuck the people that think the law is ALWAYS right.

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LittleFreak14 Wrote:They both wanted it. The law sucks and completely discriminates against minors.
Fuck the law and fuck the people that think the law is ALWAYS right.


Yep, I completely agree.


It should be on maturity basis, not the number of birthdays you had.



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but waht can rate maturity and how can a teacher know if they meet the expectation of maturity?

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Not really, what he said was completely right.
That's why we have so much trouble with these laws, you can't measure maturity, so they put a number down, even if people under that number can be more mature then the people over it.
The government and other citizens don't trust the community and the parents to raise the kids themselves, like say, giving your kid a drink here and there when they're like 13, and when they're 16 you supervise a party where the kids are drinking.
If our society were more open, we'd have a lot less problems.

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LittleFreak14 Wrote:That's why we have so much trouble with these laws, you can't measure maturity, so they put a number down, even if people under that number can be more mature then the people over it.
The government and other citizens don't trust the community and the parents to raise the kids themselves, like say, giving your kid a drink here and there when they're like 13, and when they're 16 you supervise a party where the kids are drinking.
If our society were more open, we'd have a lot less problems.

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I'm sorry, but something about it just seems off. Teachers always come off as people to talk to openly, and when they're having a relationship with students then they're no longer the mature adults. The school system is set up as teachers teach students, when both of them are messing around then the system is broken. I don't know how to explain it coherently, it just doesn't seem right.
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There's nothing wrong with a teacher/student relationship.
My guess is that you think that a teacher is above the student, and them together doesn't fit because when they're in a relationship they're equals.


(I am completely basing that on what I think your... thinking)
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I don't see what's wrong with it. As long as they consent...

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LittleFreak14 Wrote:Not really, what he said was completely right.
That's why we have so much trouble with these laws, you can't measure maturity, so they put a number down, even if people under that number can be more mature then the people over it.
The government and other citizens don't trust the community and the parents to raise the kids themselves, like say, giving your kid a drink here and there when they're like 13, and when they're 16 you supervise a party where the kids are drinking.
If our society were more open, we'd have a lot less problems.

i never disagreed with him im just saying that with todays society/ modern technology its impossible to rate maturity so therfore age is really the next best thing.... any1 have any better ideas?

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And more or less its that mentality that we hate those laws, even why this forum exists.

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i no we hate the laws but wat alternative is there?

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darthmat Wrote:i no we hate the laws but wat alternative is there?
An assload. You shouldn't give rights to one group but not to another. That's discrimination. No law should be made favoring or disfavoring any group. Just eliminate all the laws that discriminate against a group of people.

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I think its easier if people just see each other as human beings, and not try to seperate ourselves from everyone else, or point out everyones differences, and categorise them.

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LittleFreak14 Wrote:I think its easier if people just see each other as human beings, and not try to seperate ourselves from everyone else, or point out everyones differences, and categorise them.

but it has been scientifically proven taht children dont understand consequences as much sa adults (in majority)...so thats y no chld porn or child drinking/gambilng/driving is allwoeed... for thier own safety since they dont fully understand the consequences

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darthmat Wrote:
LittleFreak14 Wrote:I think its easier if people just see each other as human beings, and not try to seperate ourselves from everyone else, or point out everyones differences, and categorise them.

but it has been scientifically proven taht children dont understand consequences as much sa adults (in majority)...so thats y no chld porn or child drinking/gambilng/driving is allwoeed... for thier own safety since they dont fully understand the consequences

Thats because most teens have been fucking brainwashed. :/
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darthmat Wrote:
LittleFreak14 Wrote:I think its easier if people just see each other as human beings, and not try to seperate ourselves from everyone else, or point out everyones differences, and categorise them.

but it has been scientifically proven taht children dont understand consequences as much sa adults (in majority)...so thats y no chld porn or child drinking/gambilng/driving is allwoeed... for thier own safety since they dont fully understand the consequences
Lol, darthmat, honestly, how many 5 year old will go out drinking, driving, or gambling? Much less do child porn?

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