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I hope they win

http://www.wgal.com/news/13742514/detail.html
I hope these sisters win, usually I'm against retarded cases that sue big companies for retarded shit, (This is one of the lesser ones, I mean they had a valid point, but I like claiming my utter hatred for the stupid bitches that sue Macdonalds for making them obese, or like the guy that sued the RV comp. because he went in back with no one driving, and crashed, and they didnt have it in their manuals, so he didnt know he couldn't do that)
Anyway, maybe if they win they'll take that even more retarded show off the air.
That way the consenting teenagers that have old people fetishes can have consensual sex with said old people that have consenting teenager sex fetishes, peacefully. Smile

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I always thought that show was weird. I mean, sure, go catch freaky old guys who want to abuse kids, but to lure them in like that and put it on national television is just weird. And how can someone find a show like that entertaining? Ew.

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True, how is it entertainment? I watched it once and stopped watching after 5mins because of how boring it was. Catching child abusers is great, but do you really have to do it on national tv? *sigh* Anything for money I guess.
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i guess people just enjoy seeing this sick bastards get taken down. i can sort of understand that, although i've never watched the show myself. and what happened to this guy is definitely wrong.

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It's sick that we (meaning people) find entertainment in shows like this.

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To lazy to read the link so whats it say?

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Alucard483 Wrote:To lazy to read the link so whats it say?

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2 sisters are sueing some tv station cause they're pedo bro killed himself cause the people on to catch a predator we're cracking down on him.

And I disagree with all of you. They pose themselves as like 13-17 years olds. And an adults fucking a 13-17 year old consentually is completely fine in my book, they is not child abuserz.

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Perverted Justice and To Catch A Predator have gone after a lot of people who aren't pedophiles at all.
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Examples?

I mean your not talking about the ones that try to hook up with teenagers right?
BECAUSE ALL OF US HERE KNOW THAT THE DEFINITION OF PEDOPHILIA IS THE ATTRACTION TO PREPUBESCENT CHILDREN, RIGHT?

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Just read this: http://www.corrupted-justice.com/article21.html
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LittleFreak14 Wrote:And I disagree with all of you. They pose themselves as like 13-17 years olds. And an adults fucking a 13-17 year old consentually is completely fine in my book, they is not child abuserz.
Right, I belive that as long as its not rape/forced any sexual activity is fine in my book. Except for homos thats just not right

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fuck off.
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When saying "fuck off" it helps to specify who you are saying it to and for what reason.
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Alucard483 Wrote:
LittleFreak14 Wrote:Right, I belive that as long as its not rape/forced any sexual activity is fine in my book. Except for homos thats just not right

why?

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He's homophobic.
Well... he likes lesbians, but not ummm.... (is there a specific word for gay males?)
Well yeah, he doesn't like gay males.

And Kirby, be a good boy and explain what the fuck that link was. Confused

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This link? http://www.corrupted-justice.com/article21.html

To summarize:

A 15 year old boy posts a comment on a blog that is against Perverted Justice. The comment calls for a Denial of Service attack on the PeeJ servers. The people on the PeeJ forums find out as does the founder and leader of PeeJ, Xavier Von Erck (psuedonym). Von Erck doesn't like this plan so he posts a message on his forum that includes the owner of the blogs phone number and name ("Kirt") and tells people to harass him. The thing to point out is that it is the owner of the blog that is the target not the teenager who posted the comment.

Von Erck then steps up the attack by finding the phone number of Kirt's mother and tells his lackeys to harass her! They also sign up her email address for lots of spam subscriptions. Then someone posts an ad on Craigslist that portrays the mother as a slut and says to call her at any time of the day.

One member that lived near the mother started handing out flyers that suggests she is a pedophile though does not say it outright.

One would think that if this site was really about protecting children and if the founder was really a caring person then someone would have stopped this. There were some dissenters in the forum but Xavier Von Erck was one of the main people harassing this woman! Here are some choice quotes from him:

Quote:God I'm amused. It's awesome to see we still can do this sort of thing better than anyone.
Quote:We kind of have pwned his mother. I've got all her online hangouts and hell, even her Yahoo account!

There is also a good article here: http://www.corrupted-justice.com/article4.html

Basically it goes through some of the main contributors to PeeJ that are underage. One of the tactics that PeeJ uses to bust pedophiles is to portray a preteen or young teen and get the suspected pedophile to respond to the sexual advances made by the "young teen". The thing is, some of the members that are doing this are only 13 themselves! So it's okay for them to have a sexually explicit chat if it is for malicious purposes but not if it is a real chat. Wtf
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LittleFreak14 Wrote:2 sisters are sueing some tv station cause they're pedo bro killed himself cause the people on to catch a predator we're cracking down on him.

And I disagree with all of you. They pose themselves as like 13-17 years olds. And an adults fucking a 13-17 year old consentually is completely fine in my book, they is not child abuserz.
Wait, they catch people who want to have consentual sex with teenagers? Oh, I thought it was with younger kids, I believe if they're willing then its fine at that age, I just never saw more then 5mins of the show so I didn't know the ages.
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They still have the definition wrong. Like LF said, pedophilia is an attraction to prepubescent children. Ephebophilia is an attraction to adolescents/teenagers.
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darthmat Wrote:
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LittleFreak14 Wrote:Right, I belive that as long as its not rape/forced any sexual activity is fine in my book. Except for homos thats just not right

why?
Well I belive that sex is on of the most pleasurable acts on earth. Therefore I find that doing so (having sex) is just a way of causing pleasure. Albeit somtimes this can lead to... unforseen anti pleasure. You know what I mean Modest (wrong name but I can rember what you changed it to) As for the Homos well thats a long story that has already been told. So if you want to know more go look through old stuff

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This has been a test of the emergency pointless argument system. Had this been a real pointless argument, someone would have been called a facist.
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