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DESCHOOLING SOCIETY

Deschooling Society was written by Ivan Illich and released in 1970. The full text can be found here: http://reactor-core.org/deschooling.htm

READ IT.
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The link does not work for me.

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Fuck you. Too much reading.
But if you'd be so kind as to summarize it.....

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Well, whaddya know? It works today. Thumbsup

It does seem a bit long, but I suppose I'll read it anyways.
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Wow that's long, I'm too lazy to read it.
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1) It's long because it's a book.
2) It's not that long.
3) It's a very important book so stop being lazy.
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This is very well written. Not as long as you would think. Right now I'm working my way towards Chapter 2.
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I have that saved somewhere... I read part of it and then got distracted and forgot again. That's how it goes with me and long things to read Razz

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Thats why I didn't finish Off The Edge.
I wish I did, but.... so.... much.... reading D:

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I don't really like reading long things, I'm just too lazy.
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Suicidal-kun Wrote:I don't really like reading long things, I'm just too lazy.
same here. to long.

I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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i will read it, but this will take me a while to get through
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darthmat Wrote:
Suicidal-kun Wrote:I don't really like reading long things, I'm just too lazy.
same here. to long.
Well there goes our defence that we can be self motivated....
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Kirby Wrote:
darthmat Wrote:
Suicidal-kun Wrote:I don't really like reading long things, I'm just too lazy.
same here. to long.
Well there goes our defence that we can be self motivated....
I never said I could be self motivated.
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I don't have the time to read it. School's started. I hate school.

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Weswammy Wrote:I don't have the time to read it. School's started. I hate school.
I think almost every student hates school.
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you think correctly.

I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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darthmat Wrote:you think correctly.
Of course I think correctly, I'm me. Laugh
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Laugh

I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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Kirby Wrote:Well there goes our defence that we can be self motivated....

We can be. It just depends how badly we want to do something.
As for the book... the need doesn't feel that strong right now. If it ever does... I'll read it Smile

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Suicidal-kun Wrote:
Weswammy Wrote:I don't have the time to read it. School's started. I hate school.
I think almost every student hates school.

Not everybody hates school because it gives some people feel smart and worthwhile when they make good grade and superior to others.

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Heart of shadows Wrote:
Suicidal-kun Wrote:
Weswammy Wrote:I don't have the time to read it. School's started. I hate school.
I think almost every student hates school.

Not everybody hates school because it gives some people feel smart and worthwhile when they make good grade and superior to others.
That's why I said almost every student hates it, I know that some like it, though I personally don't actually know anyone that does.
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Suicidal-kun Wrote:
Heart of shadows Wrote:
Suicidal-kun Wrote:
Weswammy Wrote:I don't have the time to read it. School's started. I hate school.
I think almost every student hates school.

Not everybody hates school because it gives some people feel smart and worthwhile when they make good grade and superior to others.
That's why I said almost every student hates it, I know that some like it, though I personally don't actually know anyone that does.

I have actually met a person who likes school.. He liked the teachers, tests and all that crap. He was one of those guys who never questioned anything anybody told him, listens to his parents and going to college because of them and all that good shit. Whats worst this guy works at my job place and he wrote a note and posted it on our board saying why this was a great place and how the bosses are so nice and how he loves being there.

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Heart of shadows Wrote:I have actually met a person who likes school.. He liked the teachers, tests and all that crap. He was one of those guys who never questioned anything anybody told him, listens to his parents and going to college because of them and all that good shit. Whats worst this guy works at my job place and he wrote a note and posted it on our board saying why this was a great place and how the bosses are so nice and how he loves being there.
Damn, now that is an ass kisser.
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mega pushover.

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Sometimes I don't think he has a creative thought in his head.. Noo

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Heart of shadows Wrote:Sometimes I don't think he has a creative thought in his head.. Noo
That's just sad if he doesn't.
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Well on the bright side he is easy to manipulate into doing all the hard work for me. Laugh

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Heart of shadows Wrote:Well on the bright side he is easy to manipulate into doing all the hard work for me. Laugh
I can see how that could be a bonus. Laugh
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