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i think anarchy could work if you think of the entire population as their own rulers. if the majority of people are fine with living equally then any groups created to destroy the equality will just get stopped my the majority of people. now if it really is true that most people are always looking for a way to be better and stronger than their neighbour, then anarchy can't work.

i personally wish anarchy could work because in theory, it is the best way for us to live. kind of depressing that people would rather fight and kill than be equal.

one thing i might say about history disproving anarchy is that it was different back then. at first we created tribes of people and then fought other tribes for resources. these tribes grew larger and continued to fight other's until you have what we have today.

now, what would happen if we didn't have these distinctions between us? for instance what would happen if we shared our resources and treated one area as our own (canada's resources are america's and vice versa). what need would there be for war (if you don't count wars on morality and religion)?
09-19-2007 02:02 PM
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The majority of people agreeing doesn't make it OK. Those minority fuckers can mess things up if theyre a minority but still a large number. I dont think anarchy would work on a national level. It would have to be a network of different forms of anarchy through various communities/states for any idea of a functioning anarchy society.

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09-19-2007 04:28 PM
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well i'm not any expert on the matter, but i wish it could work. god damn humans getting in the way of my happiness!
09-20-2007 03:31 AM
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It can't. It would just reset the clock on government. People would still make organizations and family groups, tribes, clans, and the like. It would happen faster and more efficiently with modern tech though.

Look into a minimal government theory. That gov't is always needed in a small amount to keep people from hurting each other. Otherwise it is complete chaos. Besides, you people look at government in too much a negative light. I prefer the neutral one. It's just a tool and should be treated as such. It's not government that's evil, it's those in control of it that are. It's like fire, you must respect and control it for it can do great things, but if you let it run rampant (bureaucracy) or let it get into the hands of a maniac (power hungry leader) it can do damage.

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Recently Somone sent me a wikipedia page on the societsys that made anarchy 'work.' There were only two examples of anarchy that stood for more than a decade or two. Ten to twenty years is about how long anarchy would last before a government would establish itself. These are Cletic Ireland and the Whiteway colonys. Dumbfounded I looked into those two. The whiteway colonys spans less than a mile and is inhabited by less than 500 people, less than 500 people that live all within a mile do not count as a country but rather a SMALL society. I also read that it is no longer primarily anarchial. It is now a mix of socialism and a little anarchy. As for the Celtics it was a democracy, however no 'laws' were established as it was also a socialist type government. They even had a king, however since all he did was run the military that is where the idea that they were anarchial comes from.

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how about in Africa before the arrival of Europeans? there were some massive cities that were run on anarchist principles. there were village elders that offered advice, but the people weren't required to follow them. there were no police or real laws, people just did their business and lived their lives, and if someone killed somebody or did something really bad like that, the other people would get rid of him simply to protect their city.

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Proof, perhaps?

Well I don't need it. Because there were places like Timbuktu, Egyptin North Africa, and Prehistoric Nubia being an old example.

Even if things were like you said it was not anarchy. There was still government, however primitive. Anarchy is the complete absense of any form of government. Hell, even the things that Alucard stated as anarchy wasn't anarchy. There was still some government or there wasn't enough people for anybody to care. However good it might be that your fellow man would allow it, anarchy is just a dream. It won't happen. There would be somebody to get hold of some old nukes or get some guns and tanks and take everyone over. That simple! It's just not realistic, and I don't even mean to be a realist by saying this, I mean to keep my hopes within the realm of human ability.

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