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I just remember this from about a year ago, thought you guys might find it interesting:
When I first entered one of my classrooms last year, the teacher told us to take note of the signs she had up above the white board. I took a look at them. I do not remember all of them, but a few stuck with me. I cannot quote them, but for the most part, they said something similar to, "When dissagreeing please do so in a non disrespectful manner and be sensitive, example, 'I see what you are saying, but' or, 'Well you have a point, but'"
Basically they were telling us to not tell the stupid kids in the class that they were indeed stupid. This is pretty pathetic, when you have an actually slightly mentally challenge child in the class who should be in a class for his type.
If you take a second and read this shit, you realize that the fucking morons who came up with this bullshit basically make you lie about something. It is total bullshit to say, "well you have a point." When the person you are speaking of actually had no point and said something completely irrelevant. The same goes for, "I see what you are saying." I thought nothing of this when I first read it, but when I was responding to an answer someone had given the teacher which was completely wrong, I was told to, "Use one of the designated responses when responding to another student." I responding saying, "Are you kidding me? You are actually telling me how to speak and respond to another person who is wrong? You have to be kidding me." I then gave my response, once again, I said, "Well, you are wrong, you are completely wrong, in fact, you have no idea what is going on, you do not even deserve to have the privilege to answer questions here. Why are you even talking? Why are you aloud to give a completely wrong answer, and why am I, when giving the right answer get in trouble for the way I stated it, I am sorry, but that is bullshit." The teacher told me to get out.
A few minutes later, she came out with a referral, saying I was being insensitive and rude. I took it, ripped it and walked home. The entire thing was bullshit.
What do you think?
"One cannot make a difference if one cannot express opinions properly" -Eric Harris
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FTP!!!!
Way cool man, good job.
I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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Why would they tell you how to respond to people? Really stupid idea, people should be able to express what they feel, don't follow what a poster on the wall says..
The person you're talking to should have the right to say what he means, and you should have the right to tell him he's wrong. Sometimes I just wonder where teachers get these ideas..
I hate the teachers and the principal
Don't wanna be taught to be no fool
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Man,, thats' fucking stupid. Glad to hear ya didn't take it man, fucking awesome!
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You pwned that silly teacher 
If someone's being retarded... you should be able to tell them so if you want. I'd just be careful if they were really sensitive or something... but other than that... let 'em have it.
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thats great I love when people stand up to things that just don't make any sense.
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meh if you know stuff about psychology, that's a good line if you want to influence someone. 'i see what you mean and..." is a good way to let them know you're not completely disregarding their idea. also helps them see the connection between your idea and theirs.
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you should have the right to say STFU GTFO 
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wow, school encourages dishonesty. that's some high class eduation. good job not conforming, by the way =)
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Should have eaten the referral. Dramatic effect is a must if you're looking to infuriate your teachers. =D
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thoughtmaker Wrote:meh if you know stuff about psychology, that's a good line if you want to influence someone. 'i see what you mean and..." is a good way to let them know you're not completely disregarding their idea. also helps them see the connection between your idea and theirs.
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you should have the right to say STFU GTFO
You have a point there, however I am not trying to sell a car or persuade ones opinion.
It is completely bullshit to encourage that garbage in a school. I just can't take that shit.
"One cannot make a difference if one cannot express opinions properly" -Eric Harris
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thoughtmaker Wrote:meh if you know stuff about psychology, that's a good line if you want to influence someone. 'i see what you mean and..." is a good way to let them know you're not completely disregarding their idea. also helps them see the connection between your idea and theirs.
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you should have the right to say STFU GTFO
yeah, that's an interesting point. in a way, it's encouraging people to be open-minded and polite. though at the same time, they shouldn't discourage people from speaking their minds and being honest.
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thoughtmaker Wrote:meh if you know stuff about psychology, that's a good line if you want to influence someone. 'i see what you mean and..." is a good way to let them know you're not completely disregarding their idea. also helps them see the connection between your idea and theirs.
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you should have the right to say STFU GTFO
That si correct, but if that is not one's goal or aim they should not be forced to respond that way to someone who was wrong. (i know you werent saying that i was commenting on the rule itself)
I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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ATXTheKiller Wrote:Man,, thats' fucking stupid. Glad to hear ya didn't take it man, fucking awesome!
you took the words straght out of my mouth man
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apocalipto Wrote:ATXTheKiller Wrote:Man,, thats' fucking stupid. Glad to hear ya didn't take it man, fucking awesome!
you took the words straght out of my mouth man
I second that.
I wish I was there to see it happen.
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