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wyldstryke · 09-12-2007 12:50 PM

Tyraid Wrote:The ravings of a lunatic...that I am.
In a matter of hours I have made a total and complete ass of myself. I've turned a rational conversation into theological bull shit and I've managed to insult many distinguished members of this forum. Every time I think I've done the stupidest thing possible, I set the bar higher.

To those I've insulted, I apologize (don't worry I don't expect forgiveness) .

Who started this post? What a loaded question...

dony blame the person who started it. you replied, you are as big a part of it as anyone else

wyldstryke · 09-12-2007 12:51 PM

wsgosset Wrote:
Tyraid Wrote:Going to church has nothing to do with believing in God. I go because it makes me feel good, kinda safe. If your being forced you should'nt be. Such a thing would only weaken what little faith you might have.
I absolutely agree with and love the second sentence. You'll find out why in a couple weeks.

I don't think we're going to get anywhere if unless we can discuss this with voice.

what do you mean discuss with voice?

thewake · 09-12-2007 12:51 PM

Weswammy Wrote:What I don't get is why we can't all just live in freaking harmony, respect, and tolerate other religions or the lack of them. Why? I may be asking a stupid question but I think it is very legit.

My question still stands.

wyldstryke · 09-12-2007 12:53 PM

Weswammy Wrote:
Weswammy Wrote:What I don't get is why we can't all just live in freaking harmony, respect, and tolerate other religions or the lack of them. Why? I may be asking a stupid question but I think it is very legit.
My question still stands.

because someone will always disagree with someone else

Darthmat · 09-12-2007 12:56 PM

Diversity creates fear, and fear leads to thing that are not exactly pretty...

thewake · 09-12-2007 12:58 PM

I ask you this question: Why can't people who disagree still not kill and force their beliefs each other?

Freak · 09-12-2007 12:59 PM

Respect for other's lives.

Darthmat · 09-12-2007 12:59 PM

Weswammy Wrote:I ask you this question: Why can't people who disagree still not kill and force their beliefs each other?

I agree, but most humans are total dipshits and are to insecure in thier own belifs to do so.

thewake · 09-12-2007 12:59 PM

You mean they have no respect for each others lives?

wyldstryke · 09-12-2007 01:00 PM

Weswammy Wrote:You mean they have no respect for each others lives?

i was thinking the same thing...

Freak · 09-12-2007 01:01 PM

Wait.... rephrase that question?

09-12-2007 01:02 PM

wyldstryke Wrote:Kirby is a prime example of why i say, " back up what you say"

Perhaps. But I am too lazy to summarize Nietzsche and the other is self-evident.

BGW Wrote:We're consciously aware human beings (making a distinct separation between us and any other species) because of mushrooms. Thank you.

The Stoned Ape theory is interesting but Terence McKenna is kind of.... you know what I mean.

I don't think he claims that consciousness arose because of it though. Just various abilities we have.

Weswammy Wrote:What I don't get is why we can't all just live in freaking harmony, respect, and tolerate other religions or the lack of them. Why? I may be asking a stupid question but I think it is very legit.

Eh. I can be too aggressive at times. I need to practise to be forceful but not aggressive.

Darthmat · 09-12-2007 01:08 PM

Weswammy Wrote:You mean they have no respect for each others lives?

Not alot of it....

wyldstryke · 09-12-2007 01:15 PM

darthmat Wrote:
Weswammy Wrote:You mean they have no respect for each others lives?
Not alot of it....

obviously not or else we wouldnt have a website about school-survival.

Freak · 09-12-2007 01:17 PM

No, we're talking about life. Not rights.
Driving a car and drinking are luxuries.

But living is not.

Darthmat · 09-12-2007 01:18 PM

it is obvious their is not alot of respect for it b/c of all fo teh wars that thier has been....

and will someone please define respect?

Freak · 09-12-2007 01:23 PM

respect for others life means letting them live even though you dont agree with them
Like, for example:

A-Hi!
B- Hi!
A- I am Christian
B- oh, I am Muslim!
A- Whaaaaah! Bigeek

:person a now kills person B with a soldering iron:

This is not respect.

**SoulRiser** · 09-13-2007 12:43 AM

AAAAAHHH!!!

Quote:What I don't get is why we can't all just live in freaking harmony, respect, and tolerate other religions or the lack of them. Why? I may be asking a stupid question but I think it is very legit.

Amen

... Welcome, Tyraid... you're interesting. It's a pity FoN doesn't seem to like you... maybe she's just PMSing or something Evil

*hides under table*

As for all that stuff about insurance policies... If you're making yourself believe in God and doing "the right thing" just so that you can go to Heaven, you ain't doing it for the right reasons. I'd do all that stuff anyway, even if everyone convinced me I'd go to hell for it. I don't care. The right thing is the right thing, no matter WTF happens afterwards. (This isn't really aimed at anyone)

I was brought up Christian, but I've questioned it the entire time. I've read stuff about Islam, and Buddhism, and various other theories (some downright weird ones)... but I'll still call myself Christian, even if it gets me associated with the lunatics that say gay people will go to hell and other bullshit like that. Those loonies are the wrong ones, and they're giving everyone else a bad name. I don't think any of those types would actually come here, except to troll maybe... so... don't stereotype like that.

Quote:In other words, you are willing to base an extremely important and controversial belief on the basis of a feeling.

It's more than a feeling. It's like knowing that someone is going to phone you, and then they do. Like a 6th sense or something. I guess you either get it or you don't. I get it a lot, for other things too. Eat that, science! Evil

I've always found it amusing when scientists run into something they can't explain, or something that contradicts things that science has "proven". We're just a bunch of humans on a tiny planet in a huuuuuuge universe, and we have the nerve to think that we can prove anything? Don't get me wrong, it's interesting to know how things work... but knowing how they work is nowhere near as interesting as just watching them and appreciating them the way they are. For me, anyway.

I can't be bothered to type more right now. Maybe once this topic is on page 30.... Uhoh

Freak · 09-13-2007 05:11 AM

T in the Sept. 11th topic Wrote:To those who condemn the war against Al Qaedian terrorists, I call you spineless cowards too afraid to right wrongs perpetrated against yourself, or your country. While two wrongs do not make a right, there is a profound difference between vengence, and justice. If you propose to allow the murderers of three-thousand innocent people go forth unchecked only to commit crimes on an even more terrible scale, I call you a pacifist, a plauge upon the earth, and a traitor to your country. You speak of innocents in Afghanistan, I say to you there is no such thing. Only children are innocent in that God forsaken land. Before our invasion, Afghanistan was ruled by a radical extremist Islamic group known as the Taliban. Besides being a cruel and unjust leadership, they also allowed the existance of Al Qaeda. It is easy to see the fault of Al Qaeda, and the Taliban but the guilt spreads farther. Regimes do not just rise out of the dust. They take power. And they keep power. They do this by fear, and playing on the pacifistic nature of their people, the same pacifism that I accuse you of. The Taliban came to power because they were allowed to. Allowed to by those too afraid to stop them. It is in this way that all oppressed people are themselves to blame for their oppession.

Do not weep for the weak. Weep for those three-thousand who where killed by the fanaticism of a people so warped by 1500 years of murder, they are beyond redemption.

That is why I does not like him. Smile

**SoulRiser** · 09-13-2007 06:19 AM

Yeah... I saw this thread before I saw his post on that other thread Smile

Now it all makes sense.

Freak · 09-13-2007 07:01 AM

Yes... it does.

Mista Conspiracy · 09-13-2007 09:37 AM

Tyriad, your arguments are weak.

I'm willing to debate you and anyone here about Christianity.

arthasmenethil · 09-13-2007 09:55 AM

First i am going to say that the existance of a god is someone's opinion if you don' t believe there is one then fine i won't attack you for it

Now my answer: I do believe in a god because the other theory just says the natural forces put the universe together and i don't think that that is possible. The universe is so complex and humans even more complex. I don't think any natural forces put either together.

These are just my beliefs. Please don't attack me for it.

09-13-2007 09:58 AM

Quote:Now my answer: I do believe in a god because the other theory just says the natural forces put the universe together and i don't think that that is possible. The universe is so complex and humans even more complex. I don't think any natural forces put either together.

That is called an argument from incredulity meaning it is a logical fallacy.

wyldstryke · 09-13-2007 10:01 AM

Kirby Wrote:That is called an argument from incredulity meaning it is a logical fallacy.

what he said....

Mista Conspiracy · 09-13-2007 10:13 AM

christillusion Wrote:Now my answer: I do believe in a god because the other theory just says the natural forces put the universe together and i don't think that that is possible. The universe is so complex and humans even more complex. I don't think any natural forces put either together.

You're referring to evolution. All it does is replace God with billions of years. Because what they call "Micro-evolution" is the only kind of evolution that's been proven to take place, they assume that over billions of years, Macro-evolution will occur. That's a pretty big assumption. It takes more faith to believe that, than to believe that God created the universe.

I got more to say on this topic. Lemme just get my information. In the meantime, you're all welcome to throw more at me...

09-13-2007 10:17 AM

Quote:they assume that over billions of years, Macro-evolution will occur.

No they do not. Evolution is evolution. What can be seen in a petri dish or studying different but related animals can be extrapolated into the forgotten past.

arthasmenethil · 09-13-2007 10:24 AM

i said it was an opinion i didn't say it was fact

P.S. what is a fallacy and waht does credulity mean

Mista Conspiracy · 09-13-2007 10:37 AM

Kirby Wrote:No they do not. Evolution is evolution. What can be seen in a petri dish or studying different but related animals can be extrapolated into the forgotten past.

They have no guarantee that those fossilized animals had any kids, nor can they know for sure what a "transitional animal" looks like with the very small amount of bones they find.

And this extrapolation they do with the assumption that macro-evolution occurs.

christillusion Wrote:i said it was an opinion i didn't say it was fact

I know, I was helping you out by supporting your opinion/belief with facts.

arthasmenethil · 09-13-2007 10:50 AM

Mista Conspiracy Wrote:
christillusion Wrote:i said it was an opinion i didn't say it was fact

I know, I was helping you out by supporting your opinion/belief with facts.

Thanks at least you didn't just attack my beliefs directly

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