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The school violence thread

Well, since Columbine, there's been a shitload of school violence reports on the news (Dawson, VT etc.), so i've decided to make a thread about it.

Do NOT EVEN THINK about posting a plan to shoot up your school, just don't. Mkay?

Anyway, just discuss school violence, what it has done to the world, reasons for violence etc.
Also, if there has been some violence at your school, feel free to talk about it also.

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09-18-2007 07:22 AM
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when i was at camp a few years ago, i met a girl who went to school not far from my town, just across the hudson. and that school year a kid had brought a shotgun into school and hidden it in his locker. he pulled it out during classes while the halls were empty, and was getting ready to kill when a teacher saw him. he fired but they managed to get the gun and nobody was killed. still, i could tell that it had really freaked her out, and during a camp meeting where we talk about personal stuff she said she had heard the blast, and her worst fear was "shootings."

however, as bad as i feel for her, what else can i say but that people's fear of school violence has pretty much completely fucked up my life at this point. it's the same old story, something terrible happens that was perpetrated by a certain group of people, so anyone who is even close to being one of them gets faced with predjudice and fear. it happened to american muslims after 9/11, and it happened to rebellious students after columbine. people get crazy, they get paranoid, and they want to feel like they're making progress. this opens the door for PATRIOT ACT/Zero Tolerance rules and all the associated Constitution-shredding, and nobody cares. and once you get branded "suspicious," it never goes away. i know that from experiance. and the most cruel and ironic thing about that is that the fear of a suspect itself can be what eventually drives them to commit violence, when they never would have origionally. now my parents make me go in to see a shrink every few weeks, and i've heard of girls telling rumors behind my back that i was "crazy" and going to "bring in a gun and kill everybody." it really, really sucks, and i'm sure it's happening all over the country and the world.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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09-18-2007 08:03 AM
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rebelnerd was the first to reply ot this thread..... *enitre earth dies of shock*

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09-18-2007 08:05 AM
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yeah yeah, you're a fucking comic genius. now why don't you post something useful before i kill you all.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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09-18-2007 08:07 AM
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In my school there have been multiple garbage can fires, no real damage though. one happened to day.

I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
09-18-2007 08:08 AM
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there have been four bomb threats at our district over the past four years, plus i remember one from kindergarten. that's a solid 5, beeotch! i've got the tally mark on my backpack and everything!

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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09-18-2007 08:17 AM
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You better stop replying to this thread or else I'm coming over and killing all your pets.
09-18-2007 08:20 AM
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freedom of speech, yo. and my dog could kick your ass.

here's a better idea: let's all stop threatening to kill each other outside of underground? eh?

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09-18-2007 08:23 AM
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You know I don't mean it, you big lug.

And in the case of murder Mwahaha , I don't even know where you live.
09-18-2007 08:26 AM
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I agree with rebel.

And dogs are annoying and idiotic.
09-18-2007 08:27 AM
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Rebelnerd Wrote:there have been four bomb threats at our district over the past four years, plus i remember one from kindergarten. that's a solid 5, beeotch! i've got the tally mark on my backpack and everything!
Ouch.

There hasn't been any threats or so at any of the schools i've gone to. There has been some punches and kicks thrown, and this one dude in 3rd grade got his eye hurt pretty bad. Eh.

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Among many reasons, one of the more "basic" reasons, I think, for school violence (on a terrorism level) is that people are forced and/or pressured to go to school, a place they obviously don't want to go. When they get to school, they're only faced with more shit. And there's only so much shit that somebody can take. That makes people do shit like that.

Also, revenge, of course. It isn't enough to just transfer schools or to drop out or get homeschooled. I can tell you from personal experience (no, I did not bring a gun to school) that IT SIMPLY ISN'T ENOUGH! Revenge must be dealt. And I must be truthful, I don't feel sorry for people who bully people day in and day out and then turn around to see death staring them in the face. I'm sorry, I just don't. However, it is a shame, a DAMNED SHAME, when people who don't deserve it get shit-sticked.
09-18-2007 09:40 AM
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People thought that there were gunshots at my school two years ago but it was construction across the road.

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09-18-2007 10:10 AM
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kids at my school light the bathroom walls (and sometimes even more) on fire almost every month. abunch of kids have brought knives to school and there was a gun or two i think.

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I have a few people here and there talk about me planning to kill people because I don't care for people.
But I don't own a gun. All I own are a hunting knife and brass knuckles.

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not that i condone school killings (or any killings for that matter) but i know why and understand what really puts them over the edge so that they kill people. they simply just don't give a shit anymore. they're sick of living in a fucked up world, and since they're leaving it, they don't see any reason not to take people with them. in their minds, they can do whatever they like without any repercussions.

they're suicidal people who want to go out with a bang. they don't see any point to being alive and they just don't give a fuck.

the thing that really gets me is that people blame music, games and tv, when they don't bother to look at the kind of person they were or what they had become before the shooting. the helpless feeling of not being in control of their own lives (school and other things) transformed them into extremely lonely and unfeeling people.

but of course, no one takes a look at their system as the problem, because changes to a system are hard. changes to video game ratings are much easier, but not effective.
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When i was in middle school i heard about a fight that was going to happen between two actual social groups in the school. Jocks and stoners. I found out it was true when i saw 80 people leave the building at once and talking about the fight. Unforntantly the vice principal found out and stopped it.Damit i really wanted to see 80 people kick the shit out of eachother.

Sometimes i wonder if it is the education system itself that is flawed or the people that work in it.
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yep nothing's better than watching a bunch of idiots beat the crap out of each other.
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thoughtmaker Wrote:yep nothing's better than watching a bunch of idiots beat the crap out of each other.
True that.

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A freshman last year claimed she saw a guy with with a gun in his car, and that he scattered with the crowd when they started to freak out. That sent school's in the area to lockdown for a couple of hours. It was hectic, but in the end, it turned out her calim was flase, and she got suspended or some harsh punishment. Then, another time, a cluster of smoke bombs went off in a locker, filling the whole second story with smoke. Everyone evacuated to the civic center. Nothing happened that time either. The only loss was a couple of lockers.

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i met a kid at camp who told me that this asshole bitch girl he knew at school started a rumor that he was going to bring in a gun, and he got tackled by security and interrogated for hours before they realized it was a false alarm. the thing is, she was also at that camp. much awkwardness ensued. but fuck her, anyone who does that to a kid deserves to burn in hell.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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Rebelnerd Wrote:i met a kid at camp who told me that this asshole bitch girl he knew at school started a rumor that he was going to bring in a gun, and he got tackled by security and interrogated for hours before they realized it was a false alarm. the thing is, she was also at that camp. much awkwardness ensued. but fuck her, anyone who does that to a kid deserves to burn in hell.

thats fucked up

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Rebelnerd Wrote:i met a kid at camp who told me that this asshole bitch girl he knew at school started a rumor that he was going to bring in a gun, and he got tackled by security and interrogated for hours before they realized it was a false alarm. the thing is, she was also at that camp. much awkwardness ensued. but fuck her, anyone who does that to a kid deserves to burn in hell.

She deserves to burn while she gets the shit beat out of her. Somebody called the unknown hotline and did it to this guy at my school and the police tore his house apart looking for weapons. Found out the guy who called wanted revenge for something stupid.

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Has anyone seen the movies "Elephant" or "Zero Day"? The fact that movies are being made about these things now...man. "Zero Day" is a movie I can't help but being fascinated by, since it's proof that without things such as schools existing, the two main characters really would be normal, happy kids. Maybe a little off-beat, but still nowhere near as full of hidden rage as they are in the movie.
Seems kinda like another reason school shootings happen now is because it's simply a trend that's caught on. Plenty of people now know of an established(yet horrible) way to vent their wrath upon everyone.

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MadcapINTJ Wrote:Has anyone seen the movies "Elephant" or "Zero Day"? The fact that movies are being made about these things now...man. "Zero Day" is a movie I can't help but being fascinated by, since it's proof that without things such as schools existing, the two main characters really would be normal, happy kids. Maybe a little off-beat, but still nowhere near as full of hidden rage as they are in the movie.
Seems kinda like another reason school shootings happen now is because it's simply a trend that's caught on. Plenty of people now know of an established(yet horrible) way to vent their wrath upon everyone.
I have seen Zero Day. While it's certainly interesting, it's not proof.
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anyone seen "Bang Bang You're Dead"? not only a fascinating school shooting movie, but probably one of the best high school movies ever made. really hard to get because it was made for TV, but i think it's on youtube. i had to watch it in secret so my parents wouldn't start getting scared of me again, but it's not pro-violence. it's about this kid who gets tortured by jock assholes and does a bomb threat and gets caught, so everyone thinks he's this crazy terrorist. that alone starts setting him off again, and he joins a trenchcoat mafia group that's planning a columbine-style attack, but he falls in love with a girl at school and doesn't want her to die, so he doesn't know what to do. really great movie, very anti-school.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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Thanks for the sticky.

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I have heard and seen some crazy stories about my school too.

I heard the senior prank 4 years ago was just general chaos, for instance, a black senior grabbed a security cart, and a radio and just raced around school, weaving in between students and crashing into things, the entire time, he was yelling on the radio, "Yo this is nigga Shaun Johnson, we got a student with a security cart going crazy!" Other things that were happening were smokebombs and fire crackers being thrown, food fights, actual fights, teachers being spit on, rooms being trashed among other things. I heard it was great.

Not too long ago a student at my school was stabbed too.

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Aleksandr Wrote:I have heard and seen some crazy stories about my school too.

I heard the senior prank 4 years ago was just general chaos, for instance, a black senior grabbed a security cart, and a radio and just raced around school, weaving in between students and crashing into things, the entire time, he was yelling on the radio, "Yo this is nigga Shaun Johnson, we got a student with a security cart going crazy!" Other things that were happening were smokebombs and fire crackers being thrown, food fights, actual fights, teachers being spit on, rooms being trashed among other things. I heard it was great.

Not too long ago a student at my school was stabbed too.


What did he/she get for stabbing the student?
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at my school there's the usual spazstars who love to beat up anything a good 5 inches smaller than them, but otherwise its the Chav versus Mosher/Goth culture clashes that cause the problems in my school.

It's entertaining if you don't get caught up in it.

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