School favor girls

[arthasmenethil]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,204 ... /education

[thewake]

Girls are superior in school? Lmao.

That link rocks we don't care about education because it don't matter. I cant spell misipi and I'm fine lmao.

[thoughtmaker]

i don't mean to be sexist, but has anyone else noticed that the majority of girls just do what they're told? most of the girls i've ever met are always the type who constantly try really hard in school, want to get married and have kids and don't seem to have any interest in much other than doing what's expected of them.

maybe the article should've been titled, 'Girls, Do They Make Better Sheeple?'

[Freak]

^You can go to hell.

[thoughtmaker]

Freak-of-nature14 Wrote:^You can go to hell.

i think it might be true though, but of course that doesn't mean if you're a girl, you're dumb. the only reason i think it's like this is because society shoves different roles onto boys and girls. if you're a boy, you've got to macho. if you're a girl, you've got to be obsessed with your looks and act like you haven't got to brain cells to rub together.

meh, now that i think about it, both sexes are stupid. i just find stupid girls much more irritating. if you look at the 'popular' girls at you're school, you'll see what i'm talking about. dumb as a brick and says things like, 'like, oh my god!' every two minutes.

[Freak]

Boys do that too.
And the gender roles are kinda diminishing, if they weren't you wouldn't have emo's being mainstream.

And yes, people, regardless of gender, are idiotic. The both say "OHMIGAWD!" every two minutes and neither care about school.
And we're talking about the stereotypical class^

Quote:but has anyone else noticed that the majority of girls just do what they're told? most of the girls i've ever met are always the type who constantly try really hard in school, want to get married and have kids and don't seem to have any interest in much other than doing what's expected of them.

Ok, "Majority of girls do what they're told" both boys and girls do what they're told because they're sheep. But they also complain and bitch about it also.
"Always trying hard in school" Ummm.... no. And this also has nothing to do with gender. In my Humanities class (its honors) its about 52/48. Thats boys and then girls. In that calss you have to be intelligent, not just do your work (te get in). My history and lit teacher both stuck me in there, they were both really hesitant because I have.... low motivation for work. So, its not even biased in that sense.

Quote:want to get married and have kids and don't seem to have any interest in much other than doing what's expected of them

Thats both boys and girls. Last year we had to sit in a circle and say what we expected us doing in 5,10, and 15 years. I put nothing because I had no fucking clue. And the majority of everyone else, including boys and girls, said 5- college, 10- graduated and getting married, 15- kids and career.
So this is also true for both sexes.

[HeartofShadows]

I kinda agree with freak on this. there are guys AND girls like this hell when I was 14 I was like this. Doing what I was told
Trying to please my family and thinking without college I couldn't do anything or be happy in this world.

[aaaaaaasd]

Firstly, the way the ciriculum is taught is designed for girls brains, because boys and girls brains work differently. Secondly, boys have shown an intrest in more practical subjects. The ammount of theory we have to do is crap. NO WONDER boys are not as "school-tuned" as girls.

[thoughtmaker]

i guess you're right. the most irritating person in any highschool, i think, is the know-it-all girl, who studies every night and throws a shit fit if she gets anything lower than an A on her test. that's who i was thinking about when i said what i said.

i think though, that it is more socially acceptable for a boy to be bad at school, while a girl is looked down upon for having the same low marks. do you agree?

[Freak]

Ok, give example on how girls' and boys' brains work differently, and they're interests. And then I'll tell you what I think.

Clarification: give examples on what they like, ect. When you said "Boys like more practical stuff" tell me what that practical stuff is and then give me other example more like it.

[thoughtmaker]

boys are taught to be more logical and unfeeling while girls are told that they should be more caring. being more caring usually leads people to think with their emotions rather than with facts.

[Freak]

No. That is incorrect. You phail.
You see, we're talking about SCHOOL. You're talking about society in general. And though it may seem that school is the main area for indoctrination, which it is for some things, but not for gender roles. Which is what you're saying. You really are being sexist, "BOYS LIEK TIS AND GIRLS ACT LIKE TIS!" Which most don't even fit the requirements. And saying that boys are naturally unfeeling, and you're completely underminding you're own gender's emotional variety. They're just as emotional as girls, even if some don't show it as much. And saying that school teaches boys to be unfeeling is fucking ridiculas also, if you want to find some place that advocates gender roles you won't find it at schools, more likely in commercials, movies, and TV. And even those aren’t working so well. I usually don’t like celebreties but they have some advatages. Like emos and uber gothic rockstars. They’re pretty much blurring the gender line, like wearing makeup and women’s type of clothes. Shit like that.

Quote: i think though, that it is more socially acceptable for a boy to be bad at school, while a girl is looked down upon for having the same low marks. do you agree?

No, you phail again. Both girls and boys, when doing something they don’t like will do it anyways and bitch about it afterwards. “Boys will be boys” may be a common phrase. But they have equal punishments in the school enviroment.

Quote: Firstly, the way the ciriculum is taught is designed for girls brains, because boys and girls brains work differently. Secondly, boys have shown an intrest in more practical subjects. The ammount of theory we have to do is crap. NO WONDER boys are not as "school-tuned" as girls.

You also phail. Since we’re talking about stereotypes there’s that whole stereotype “Boys are better then girls in science and mathematics” So even INCLUDING them in the curriculum would be putting girls at a disadvantage. But ofcourse every since the La Femme Revolution girls have been given the chance to achieve success in those areas and now girls are pretty much equal in that area.
And the “practical” subjects you were talking about WERE math and science. The entire point of the educational system to make us “well rounded” (in the basic sense, which sucks) But it favors neither girls nor boys.
And you didn’t give much detail, so you could be talking about the way they learn, and not just what they’re “better” at. (<Bullshit) We learn in a variety of ways, different sensory ways. Like listening, visually, reading, musically, physically. All which don’t specifically pertain to either gender.

And I suppose I should touch on the

Quote:i guess you're right. the most irritating person in any highschool, i think, is the know-it-all girl, who studies every night and throws a shit fit if she gets anything lower than an A on her test. that's who i was thinking about when i said what i said.

Both genders are under social pressure to succeed in school. Again it doesn’t pertain to EITHER gender. Both can be “ZOMG! I GOTA AN A-! OH NOESZES!!!” And both can say “Fuck schoolz, manzorgz” Again, you’re being ignorant and sexist.

Now, I shall actually read the article:
-minute later-
Retarded. All they said was 1. Girls mature more quickly 2. Boys have lower test scores, and 3. Boys like [so and so novels] They gave very little details and they’re main point was that boys like reading different types of fucking books. This article sucked.
1. This is a stupid comment. I don’t even understand why the fuck its in there. This is also categorized as a social thing, and has really nothing to do with education.
2. Ok? Just because they scored lower doesn’t mean that the educational system it so blame. And standardized tests results should never show up in a study, because for the most part they give no indicator to how well people are developing intellectually.
3. This was they’re main point. ZOH MAH GAWD! ZE READ HISTORY AND FANTASY BOOKZESES!
Stupid, extremely. Whenever I see someone reading at school its usually an anime book or a fantasy book. Infact there’s this annoying book that’s all the rage called Vampirates. And yes, this goes for the girls AND boys at my school. I know absolutely nobody, other then me, that reads about history for enjoyment. And adventure stories also go for both noys and girls in my school.


Ok, I'm tired >.>
My point is that you guys are ignorant, biased, and sexist. They article only talked about how boys like to read different genres. They said nothing at all about schools prefering to teach in a way that girls would be "more in-tuned"

[thoughtmaker]

i wasn't saying that either sex is naturally one way or the other, but that we're taught that it is more 'acceptable' to be one way (unfeeling for men and the opposite for girls)

and also i know i'm right when i say that society puts more pressure on girls to do better in school because that's just the way people think. little johnny may not be able to add two plus two, but he sure can throw a football. they may treat kids the same on paper, but it doesn't work out quite the same when we're talking about social pressure.

a boy won't take as much shit from his friends about failing a test as a girl would because it's 'okay' for a guy to be stupid. 'boys will be boys' is still very much used today, while girls are held to a higher standard; 'be lady-like'.

i'm not saying girls are naturally more stupid then boys (although it's possible that boys are smarter than girls and vice-versa)and i'm not saying it's fair, but the two genders are brainwashed differently.

[aaaaaaasd]

Ok fine, so the difference between boys and girls brains experiment is neligible. It might be the fact the curriculum is designed to teach everyone. EXCEPT it failed
on day one. Meaning that most boys are left out. But still, as we can all agree, school is boring for everyone.

[SoulRiser]

The title of that article is funny... but this would have been funnier: Why Johnny Can't Read: Because his name isn't Jane

Quote:"Here's a fascinating fact," she said. "There is no literacy gap in home-schooled boys and girls."

"Why? In school, teachers emphasize reading literature and talking about character and feelings," she said. "This way of teaching reading does not turn boys on. Boys prefer reading nonfiction, such as history and adventure books. When they are taught at home, parents are more likely to let them follow their interests."

READING has absolutely nothing to do with analyzing every last detail about the book. That's just annoying no matter who you are.

[Freak]

We know they're wired differently but that doesn't mean school adheres to only one sexes advantages. In different subjects it leans towards one gender or another's certain advantages.

Quote:i wasn't saying that either sex is naturally one way or the other, but that we're taught that it is more 'acceptable' to be one way (unfeeling for men and the opposite for girls)

1. That’s a society thing, it doesn’t happen at school accept with very few dumbass teacher and the kids 2. We’re not even following those anymore. That’s why it’s become more acceptable to be gay (Considering the stereotype for homosexuals is pretty much the “FABULOOOUUUS!” Gay guy) and you have emos walking around, I said all this before, and then celebrities that blend the gender lines. 3. Most of our society is hypocritical, you can’t analyze it as a whole because you can’t. You have part of the influence saying ZOMG! BE A MAN! And the other going ‘Tis alright to act the way you feel.

Quote:and also i know i'm right when i say that society puts more pressure on girls to do better in school because that's just the way people think. little johnny may not be able to add two plus two, but he sure can throw a football. they may treat kids the same on paper, but it doesn't work out quite the same when we're talking about social pressure.

Well you don’t know shit. Both genders have equal amount of pressure on them to “succeed” in school and be the typical model is “excellence” (A’s, going to college, members of Ex-circulars, etc.) And now ECA now include girls bein’ in the “girl” sports, so sports do play a role.

Quote:a boy won't take as much shit from his friends about failing a test as a girl would because it's 'okay' for a guy to be stupid. 'boys will be boys' is still very much used today, while girls are held to a higher standard; 'be lady-like'.

About the test thing… no. Kids don’t care what their friends’ grades are. Parents and teachers do, but that goes for BOTH genders. And of course its ok for guys to be stupid, its also ok for girls to be stupid. It doesn’t matter if they have any knowledge of how people suffer or if they can give their opinions on which dictator they would like to rule their country next, as long as BOTH GENDERS get an A on their spelling test.
Boys will be boys and “Being Ladylike” refers specifically to one genders MANNERS and how mature they act, it has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the intelligence level a culture expects of one gender compared to another.

Quote:i'm not saying girls are naturally more stupid then boys (although it's possible that boys are smarter than girls and vice-versa)and i'm not saying it's fair, but the two genders are brainwashed differently.

Well they’re not brainwashed that differently. Maybe a little in the way they act…. But its certainly not how much one is expected to learn. They’re both expected to be as intelligent as possible. Being a dumbass is looked down upon.

Quote:Ok fine, so the difference between boys and girls brains experiment is neligible. It might be the fact the curriculum is designed to teach everyone. EXCEPT it failed
on day one. Meaning that most boys are left out. But still, as we can all agree, school is boring for everyone.

Actually, I rather enjoy school. It may be oppressive but the teachers are nice and the textbooks are <3.
I doubt it failed, they say that more girls pass the test then boys, but we also have more girls then boys. So their’s lots of possibilities, and the school be at fault because they choose one book over another is not a fucking possibility.

[Darthmat]

Just as an example: In my school, girls tend to behave alot better.

But this probbably has to do w/ the fact that almost the whole honors classes are made up of girls, and the idiot boys in my grade (most of them) are physically addicted to peer pressure.

[Suicidal-kun]

I don't really know which sex is better at my school, and I don't really care enough to find out.

[Doomsayer]

my school is sexist against males, they cater to females though.

[payback123]

thoughtmaker Wrote:i don't mean to be sexist, but has anyone else noticed that the majority of girls just do what they're told? most of the girls i've ever met are always the type who constantly try really hard in school, want to get married and have kids and don't seem to have any interest in much other than doing what's expected of them.

maybe the article should've been titled, 'Girls, Do They Make Better Sheeple?'

laughed my ass off

True though

[sandflow]

thoughtmaker Wrote:

Freak-of-nature14 Wrote:^You can go to hell.

i think it might be true though, but of course that doesn't mean if you're a girl, you're dumb. the only reason i think it's like this is because society shoves different roles onto boys and girls. if you're a boy, you've got to macho. if you're a girl, you've got to be obsessed with your looks and act like you haven't got to brain cells to rub together.

meh, now that i think about it, both sexes are stupid. i just find stupid girls much more irritating. if you look at the 'popular' girls at you're school, you'll see what i'm talking about. dumb as a brick and says things like, 'like, oh my god!' every two minutes.

well,i'm a girl and i'm not obsessed with my looks,my classmates are,even boys i just love sport,anime,drawing but not those stupid chemical things that you put them on your face

[Evasion]

The girls locker room in my school is twice as big as the boys locker room.

[The Wadekarl]

Doomsayer Wrote:my school is sexist against males, they cater to females though.

How so?

[thoughtmaker]

sandflow Wrote:

thoughtmaker Wrote:

Freak-of-nature14 Wrote:^You can go to hell.

i think it might be true though, but of course that doesn't mean if you're a girl, you're dumb. the only reason i think it's like this is because society shoves different roles onto boys and girls. if you're a boy, you've got to macho. if you're a girl, you've got to be obsessed with your looks and act like you haven't got to brain cells to rub together.

meh, now that i think about it, both sexes are stupid. i just find stupid girls much more irritating. if you look at the 'popular' girls at you're school, you'll see what i'm talking about. dumb as a brick and says things like, 'like, oh my god!' every two minutes.

well,i'm a girl and i'm not obsessed with my looks,my classmates are,even boys i just love sport,anime,drawing but not those stupid chemical things that you put them on your face

like i said though, just because you're a girl, doesn't mean you act the same as the majority. to think that was the case would be ignorant.

however, i do believe that we do put VERY different pressures on boys and girls.

i'll give some examples.

boys are thought to be cool to bang every chick they can.

girls are thought to be 'slutty' for the same behavior.

girls can say 'i love you' to their friends.

if a boy said that, the entire school would immediately suspect him of being gay.


in general, while boys AND girls are told to be more polite and mind their manners, a boy won't looked down upon as much as girl who fails to do so. if a girl let out a huge fart, would most people find it disgusting or funny like when a boy does it? that may be a bad example, but that's the point i'm trying to make. the girl would be looked down upon more so than the boy.

also, if you think that everyone or even the majority of people are able to look past their predjudices, i think that's being more than a little optimistic.

[Freak]

No. You phail. hard.

I'm tired of discussing this because you say the exact same things over and over and I've given my opinion on them atleast twice.

[Coma Girl]

well going to an all girls school, i have nothing to compare to... meh.

[haza]

i agree with both of the two main talkers in this subject. girls in my school are definately more well behaved in our school than the boys. evan though there are the teachers pets bitches). And their alot more behaved partly in our class. I think is probable due to the fact that our old teacher was extremely sexist.

[Freak]

Details, motherfuckers. Define sexism, against males or females?

And I have no fucking clue what the hell you guys are talking about when you say that girls behave better, in my school it's not gender based, its clique based. And even then it's very loose.

And you can't agree with the main talkers in this thread because they're views are contradictory.

[SoulRiser]

Quote:however, i do believe that we do put VERY different pressures on boys and girls.

i'll give some examples.

boys are thought to be cool to bang every chick they can.

girls are thought to be 'slutty' for the same behavior.

girls can say 'i love you' to their friends.

if a boy said that, the entire school would immediately suspect him of being gay.

That's true. It's not just in school though, it's everywhere.

[Freak]

I still don't see any gender role pressure in school.
Really I don't.
Only in retarded commercials and shit.
See? I say we ban ads and tv =D