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So tell me about college...
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Absentinsomniac Wrote:I've told my parents that I'm not going to go to college right away, and they told me that I was making a mistake. They said I wouldn't want to start college ever if I didn't go right away... Well fuck that...

Gotta admit man that took some balls.

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AngryCollegeDude Wrote:Good things about college
-You have a whole lot more freedom than in high school.
-You get to choose your classes and schedule.
-Less emphasis on rules and conformity, more actual learning.
-Better teachers (for the most part)
-Job opportunities. Many jobs require college degrees and even those which don't, employers seem to prefer those who do.
-I have never felt like that, unless you mean that you're free not to go to class, but that usually results in failing, which defeats the purpose of having signed up and paid.
-Only if you go to a big school. The school I went to for 4 years was small and there was only one section of all the classes I had to take except the "core" shit like history and paper-writing.
-Ha! That's so false.
-HAHAHA!
-Yeah, but rarely is having a degree enough. You have to do certifications or further degrees.

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psychopath Wrote:I'll tell you why I think this happens. When you went to high school, it was your life, all your friends were from school and you basically had no life out of school. If you don't drop this attitude then life will always be the same. If you just go to class then back home to your basement then your life will always be depressingly boring.

Exactly. This is why I have such a lax spring semester schedule for my senior year. I technically only need 3 classes to graduate, but my school requires I be there for six periods a day. So my first 2 classes are jokes, like art and yearbook, I have theology, english, and government (I never have homework in any of my classes), and then an independent study in the library. After that, I go home, work out, go back and pick up my brothers, go home, and then train and go to kickboxing and MMA. I've never felt better; even though I'm considered "lazy" for dropping AP Biology (there's a whole other vent as to why), I've been getting more sleep, I look better, feel better, feel stronger, and have met so many people I wouldn't have if I had stayed in the conventional high school life. I love the people I've gotten to know in MMA, in this homeless shelter I work at, this soccer program I tried, and random people I converse with at a bookstore when I just fucking feel like reading there. So I'm technically being productive in a way that makes me feel good and doesn't require me to sit in a classroom for 8 hours a day. I'm hoping college will be the same.

psychopath Wrote:I think I'm lucky I am not going to uni fresh out of high school, I bummed around for 1 year but at least I know there's a world outside of the educational institution you attend.

I agree, though I can't do what you did since it's expected I go to college. However, I think you are lucky that you got to see the world before committing to something as expensive as college. I also want to get a job that lets me be independent, so I'm hoping college can at least get me internships that employers might from impressive...maybe. I know that if I could, I would take a year off to work and travel and find out what it is I actually want to study.

psychopath Wrote:Seems to me that all the first year students that just came from school are acting like university is the next step in their linear boring life. I try not to think of it as a step in this linear life story, instead I am going to university because I want to due to many reasons.

Again, you hit the nail right on the head. These are the same students who tell me I took the easy way out by having an easy senior schedule, even though I worked my ass off for 3 1/2 years and kept my grades up, and that I'm still being cheated by the school because I'm wasting more time there than I actually need. School literally felt like having a 9-5 job in a cubicle, something I really don't want. I worked that way during my summers, and that was enough to convince me that I'd rather take risks and not have a secure source of income than live a boring, soul crushing existence completely dependent on the system. And you're right; people don't know why they're going to college other than it's expected, or they want to party (even though they can do that before for much less) or just want to feel superior. I'm going because it's expected of me, I know, but I really want to use my time wisely and actually gain skills that will help me live independently.


I agree with your main point that too many people don't know that there's a world outside their school. I didn't really experience it until sometime in my junior year, when I just stopped giving a fuck about my school because making good grades didn't make me feel happy, didn't earn me any (real) friends, and didn't gain me any real respect. I just felt like shit and thought, "There has to be more to life than this." That's when I signed up for activities not sponsored by the school, started wandering into places in my town that I normally would've ignored, and just started conversing with random people (a lot of time, they'd converse with me). I love the exciting world, and I know I've made mistakes and could've done things better, but I'll take the risks rather than living a boring, conventional life always stuck in school and in a cubicle.
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The main difference between college and high school seems to be that the professors don't care as much about what you do.

The actual education isn't much better though, at least at the beginning.
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genuine anarchist Wrote:I agree with your main point that too many people don't know that there's a world outside their school. I didn't really experience it until sometime in my junior year, when I just stopped giving a fuck about my school because making good grades didn't make me feel happy, didn't earn me any (real) friends, and didn't gain me any real respect. I just felt like shit and thought, "There has to be more to life than this." That's when I signed up for activities not sponsored by the school, started wandering into places in my town that I normally would've ignored, and just started conversing with random people (a lot of time, they'd converse with me). I love the exciting world, and I know I've made mistakes and could've done things better, but I'll take the risks rather than living a boring, conventional life always stuck in school and in a cubicle.

This part of your post makes me really angry, for reasons I cannot grasp.

Maybe because I'd give blood right now to be able to work in one of those cubicle jobs everyone seems to scoff at and scorn.

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Each and their own Faby.

Wouldn't want to work a cubicle job myself and prefer labor to keep myself active but I would take a cubicle job at the point.

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Faby Wrote:
genuine anarchist Wrote:I agree with your main point that too many people don't know that there's a world outside their school. I didn't really experience it until sometime in my junior year, when I just stopped giving a fuck about my school because making good grades didn't make me feel happy, didn't earn me any (real) friends, and didn't gain me any real respect. I just felt like shit and thought, "There has to be more to life than this." That's when I signed up for activities not sponsored by the school, started wandering into places in my town that I normally would've ignored, and just started conversing with random people (a lot of time, they'd converse with me). I love the exciting world, and I know I've made mistakes and could've done things better, but I'll take the risks rather than living a boring, conventional life always stuck in school and in a cubicle.

This part of your post makes me really angry, for reasons I cannot grasp.

Maybe because I'd give blood right now to be able to work in one of those cubicle jobs everyone seems to scoff at and scorn.

Understandable; right now, I'd rather be at one of those jobs than waste my time at school not getting paid and running out of money since a lot of fun shit costs money. However, most of the time, I'd rather have a risky occupation than a regular scheduled job that reminds me a little too much of school, except with pay.
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Money first, do what you want second. Unless you're one of the lucky people who can get money by doing what they want.
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It's better than high school. Much better. Here's some advice though: go to a community college to get graduation requirements out of the way. It'll be much easier on you. It's also less expensive. I did that and got a two year scholarship so it was free for me. Need to find money for a university now.

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