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I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.

I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.

I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.

I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.

Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.

Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.

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Here is the source code of the intro page, for anyone who wants to translate it into their own language:
You can just ignore everything between < > tags if you don't know what they mean. It's just nicer for me to have it there so it's easier for me to see which part goes where Smile


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$title2="You have every right to hate school";
$titlewords = "because forced education sucks";

<a href="/about/">Site Purpose</a>:<BR>
<blockquote>This is a support site for students who can't stand being forced to go to school. We are not <i>telling</i> you to <a href="/alternatives/">drop out</a>, <a href="/kit/">rebel</a> or do anything in particular. What you do is your decision and yours alone, we can just provide <a href="/answers/">support</a> and <a href="/articles/">information</a> for whatever choice you may make. What works for one person won't necessarily work for everyone. The point is: the choice is <i>yours</i> to make. And if, for whatever reason, other people refuse to let you make that choice, you will always find someone here willing to <a href="/forums/">listen to you</a>.</blockquote>

<h1>It's okay to hate school:</h1> <h2>There is nothing wrong with you.</h2>

If you hate school, parents and teachers may be quick to label you as <a href="/boot_camp.php">'troubled' or 'defiant'</a> or diagnose you with a bunch of disorders. Nothing could be further from the truth.<P>

There is nothing wrong with hating school, there is nothing wrong with hating being forced to go someplace you don't want to and being &quot;taught&quot; things that don't interest you in ways that would kill you if boredom were lethal.<P>

<a href="articles/school/Youre_not_worthless.php">You're not worthless</a> if you don't get good grades, and you're not mentally ill if the mere thought of <a href="articles/school/Who_wouldnt_be_school_phobic.php">school scares you</a>.<P>

In fact, you're probably perfectly sane.<P>

They say school is for learning? Well, <a href="articles/school/School_is_boring.php">being bored</a> is hardly any way to learn anything! No wonder hardly anyone remembers what they were forced to memorize at school. <a href="/about/anti-school.php">School isn't about learning</a>, it's about <a href="articles/school/history/Horrors_Maybe_the_Schools_Are_Working_Just_Fine.php">training people to be obedient</a> to those with authority over them.<P>

Don't trust school to 'educate' you - only <b>you</b> can be trusted with that!<P>

<P>
<blockquote>
<h3><a href="http://www.fitz-claridge.com/">This psychologist</a> has a message for kids who hate school:</h3>
I, as an adult and a psychologist, want to say to any children out there who hate school: you are not alone. Most people hate it too, but usually they don't feel entitled to say so, and many can't bear to think about it so they hardly even know how they feel. You are not mad – you don't have a Deep Psychological Problem (though you might develop one if you stay in school against your will!); and you are not bad for wanting to live your life the way you choose, doing what you think right – that is what everyone should be doing. You are not the problem: coercion is the problem. Being forced to go to school is the problem. (<a href="articles/school/Who_wouldnt_be_school_phobic.php">read the rest of this article</a>)<P>
</blockquote>

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<h2>But kids need an education!</h2>

If you think kids would not learn <b>anything</b> if it were not for school, you might not be aware that there are <a href="/alternatives/">alternatives to school</a>. You can even <a href="/alternatives/online-schooling/">take classes online</a>.
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<a href="http://www.school-survival.net/alternatives/">Alternatives to school:</a><BR>
<a href="http://www.school-survival.net/alternatives/homeschooling-unschooling/">Homeschooling/Unschooling</a>

<a href="http://www.school-survival.net/alternatives/online-schooling/">Online Schooling</a>

<a href="http://www.school-survival.net/alternatives/GED-dropping-out/">Dropping out / getting a GED</a>

<a href="http://www.school-survival.net/alternatives/charter-schools/">Charter schools</a>

<a href="http://www.school-survival.net/alternatives/">More...</a>
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And if your parents won't let you try any of the alternatives, you can stay in school to <a href="/kit/">spread the word</a>. If school is driving you insane, here's a guide on <a href="/kit/how_to_survive.php">how to survive if you hate school</a>. But whatever you do, don't <a href="/kit/dont.php">break stuff or hurt anyone</a>, because that will just feed the stereotype that kids need to be kept under control. This site's design is dark and gloomy for one reason only - 'cause it looks cool that way :P
<P>
If you have a website, please <a href="/link_us.php">link to us</a>! Here are some <a href="/support.php">other ways you can help</a>, too.
<P>
By the way, <a href="/about/anti-school.php">"anti-school" doesn't mean "anti-education"</a>.

<h2>What's on this site</h2>

<table align=center>
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    <td><img src="/pix/badge.gif" alt="Laboro ad Nauseum - Working till you're sick"><p class=contents>(Feel free to use this image as a banner to link to this site)</p></td>
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<a href="<? echo $dah_url2; ?>/stuff_to_read.php">Stuff to read</a><BR>
Some recommended reading.<P>

<a href="<? echo $dah_url2; ?>/kit/">Survival Kit</a><BR>
How you can survive school and make a difference at the same time.<P>

<a href="<? echo $dah_url2; ?>/answers/">FAQ</a><BR>
Answers to frequently asked questions (advice and stuff).<P>

<a href="<? echo $dah_url2; ?>/comic_relief/">Comic Relief</a><BR>
Some fun stuff to help ease the pain.<P>

<a href="<? echo $dah_url2; ?>/forums/">Forums</a><BR>
If you'd like to stick around.<P>

<a href="<? echo $dah_url2; ?>/support.php">Spread the word</a><BR>
Tell other people about School Survival :)<P>

<P>
<p class=contents>... and lots more on the left menu bar.</p>
    </td>
</tr>
</table>

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UPDATE: We now have 10 languages. Biggrin

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Her Hakin Var Okulu sevmemen icin

Cunku Zorlu okul pislikdir

Okulu sevmemek normaldir, hicbir sakatlik yokdur sende

Okulu sevmiyorsan, anneler ve babalar hemen seni problemli cocuk olarak gorurler, vede hastalikli sanarlar seni. bunda hic bir doruluk yok.

Okulu sevmemek de hic yanis bir seye yok, zorlu bir yeri sevmemekde yanis bir seye yok.

Gereksiz diyelsin...I GIVE UP lol
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What language is that? Laugh

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QUE?

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psychopath Wrote:Her Hakin Var Okulu sevmemen icin

Cunku Zorlu okul pislikdir

Okulu sevmemek normaldir, hicbir sakatlik yokdur sende

Okulu sevmiyorsan, anneler ve babalar hemen seni problemli cocuk olarak gorurler, vede hastalikli sanarlar seni. bunda hic bir doruluk yok.

Okulu sevmemek de hic yanis bir seye yok, zorlu bir yeri sevmemekde yanis bir seye yok.

Gereksiz diyelsin...I GIVE UP lol
German right?

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Sounds it. :/

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Wolf on Mescaline Wrote:No, that isn't German.

I want to say Swedish or Finnish, but I doubt that's right either.

Perhaps it's the native language of South Africa? I forgot what it's called.

Its definitely not Finnish nor Swedish... I'd venture a guess at Turkish or some such European language... but a guess is just a guess.

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$title2="Sinulla on kaikki oikeus inhota koulua!";
$titlewords = "Koska oppetuksen pakottaminen on aivan paskaa";

<h1>On aivan OK inhota koulua:</h1> <h2>Ei sinussa ole mitään vikana.</h2>

Jos inhoat koulua, vanhemmat tai opettajat voivat helposti nimettää sut <a href="/boot_camp.php">'häiriintyneeksi' taikka 'uhmaavaksi'</a> tai sitten tehdä susta miljoona eri mieli-sairaus diagnoosia. Mikään ei voisi olla kauempana totuudesta.<P>
Ei ole mitään väärin koulun inhoamisessa, ei ole mitään väärin siinä että inhoaa menemistä johonkin paikkaan jonne ei halua vain pakkosta, ja sitten pakkosta &quot;opetetaan&quot; asioida joihon sulla ei ole mitään mielenkiintoa, tavoilla jotka tappaisi sut jos vain tylsyys voisi tappaa.<P>

<a href="articles/school/Youre_not_worthless.php">Et ole mitätön</a> jos et saa hyviä arvosanoja, ja et ole mieli sairas jos vain ajatus <a href="articles/school/Who_wouldnt_be_school_phobic.php">koulusta säikyttää sua</a>.<P>

Totuuden mukaan, olet varmaan ihan täysi-järkinen.<P>
He sanovat että koulussa opitaan? No, <a href="articles/school/School_is_boring.php">tylsiintyminen</a> ei ole mikään tapa oppia! Ei ihme että melkein kukaan ei muista mitä heidä pakkotettiin oppimaan koulussa. <a href="/about/anti-school.php">Koulut eivät ole oppimisesta kiinni</a>, sen sijaan <a href="articles/school/history/Horrors_Maybe_the_Schools_Are_Working_Just_Fine.php"> ne manipuloi ihmisiä olemaan tottelevaisa</a> niille joilla on auktoriteettia heidän yllä.<P>

Elä luota että koulut 'oppettavat' sua - voit <b>you</b> vain luottaa omaan itseesi!<P>

<P>
<blockquote>
<h3><a href="http://www.fitz-claridge.com/">Tällä psykologilla</a> on viesti lapsille jotka inhoavat koulua:</h3>
Minä, aikuisena ja psykologina, haluan sanoa kaikille ala-ikäisille jotka inhoavat koulua: ette ole yksin. Eniten ihmisiä inhoaa sitä myös, mutta eniten aikaa he eivät vain halua sanoa niin, ja monet ei voi edes kestää ajatella siitä kunnes ne ei lähes tiedä mitä tuntea. Et ole hullu – Sinulla ei ole Syvää Psykologista Ongelmaa (vaikka semmoinen voi kyllä kertyä jos pysyt koulussa vastoin omaa tahtoa!); ja et ole huono ihminen jos haluat elää elämän omalla tavalla, ja tehdä mitä itse ajatelet on oikein – tämä on mitä kaikien pitäisi tehdä. Sinä et ole ongelma: pakkokeino on se ongelma. Kouluun pakkotaminen on ongelma. (<a href="articles/school/Who_wouldnt_be_school_phobic.php">Lue loput tästä artikellista</a>)<P>
</blockquote>

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<h2>Mutta lapsethan tarvitsevat oppetuksen!</h2>

Jos sinä luulet että lapset ei opi <b>anything</b> ilman kouluun menemistä, et ole varmaan kuullut että on <a href="alternatives.php">vaihto-ehtoja kouluun</a>.
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Ja jos vanhempasi eivät suostu antaa sinun koittaa näidä vaihto-ehtoja, voit silti pysyä koulussa <a href="/kit/">ja levittää sanaa</a>. Jos tulet hulluksi koulusta, niin tässä on opas <a href="/kit/how_to_survive.php">miten pystyt selviämään hengissä jos inhoat koulua</a>. Mutta mitä tahansa teetkään elä vain <a href="/kit/dont.php">riko tavaroita tai satuta ketään</a>, koska tällainen käytäytyminen vain auttaa levittämään sitä stereotypiaa että lapset tarvitsevat kuria jotta voivat pysyä maltissa. Tämän sivun suunnittelu on tumma ja pimeä vain yhden syyn takia - koska se näyttää siistiltä Razz
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jos sinulla on oma websivu, ole hyvä ja <a href="/link_us.php">linkaa meihin</a>! Tässä on <a href="/support.php">joitain toisia keinoja jotka voi auttaa</a>, myös.
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Muuten vain, <a href="/about/anti-school.php">"anti-koulu" ei tarkoita "anti-oppiminen"</a>.
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Jos sinun täytyy purkaa vähän vihaa, voit <a href="/ramblings/add.php">jättää viestin tähän</a>. Kuka tahansa voi jättää ihan anonyymin viestin.

<h2>Mitä tältä sivultä löytyy</h2>

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<td><img src="/pix/badge.gif" alt="Laboro ad Nauseum - Työskentele kunnes tulet kipeäksi"><p class=contents>(Olet vapaa käytämään tätä kuvaa bannerina tähän sivuun)</p></td>
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<a href="<? echo $dah_url2; ?>/stuff_to_read.php">Jotain luettavaa</a><BR>
Suositeltavaa luettavaa.<P>

<a href="/kit/">Selviytymis Pakkaus</a><BR>
Miten sinä voit selvitä koulusta ja tehdä vaikutuksen samaan aikaan.<P>

<a href="/answers/">FAQ</a><BR>
Vastauksia yleisiin kysymyksiin (neuvoja ja niin pois päin).<P>

<a href="/comic_relief/">Koomista helpotusta</a><BR>
Joitain hauskoja juttuja jotka voi auttaa kivun kanssa.<P>

<a href="/phpbb/">Foorumit</a><BR>
Jos haluat jäädä pitemäksi ajaksi.<P>

<a href="/support.php">Levitä sanaa</a><BR>
Kerro muillekin ihmisille Koulun Selviytymisestä Smile<P>

<p class=contents>... ja paljon lisää vasemmassa menussa.</p>
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Here is my Finnish translation (I hope I wrote it in the right place, I know next to nothing about coding). Don't be surprised if there are a few mistakes, I went through it a couple of times, but it is rather late as I write this and my eyes are starting to hurt from staring at the computer screen. Anyway, I hope it helps Smile
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Quote:Perhaps it's the native language of South Africa? I forgot what it's called.

We have 11 of those. I don't know what they're all called either Laugh

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Ooh... Finnish... thanks! Biggrin

I wouldn't know if there were any mistakes Laugh

Oh yeah, could you translate this line as well (I forgot to add it to the original post):

Quote:Welcome to the Finnish version of School Survival's intro page... The rest of this site is in English though, except for the Other Languages Forum.

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SoulRiser Wrote:Ooh... Finnish... thanks! Biggrin

I wouldn't know if there were any mistakes Laugh

Oh yeah, could you translate this line as well (I forgot to add it to the original post):

Quote:Welcome to the Finnish version of School Survival's intro page... The rest of this site is in English though, except for the Other Languages Forum.

No problem,

"Tervetuloa Suomalaiseen versioon Koulun Selviytymisen esisanasta... loput tästä websivusta on kyllä Englanniksi, paitsi foorumissa "Other Languages" (Toiset Kielet) osastossa."

There you go Razz

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Kirby Wrote:I think it's Turkish.

Yay! I got it right!

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Yay! Finnish version is here Smile

Just one question...

Elä luota että koulut 'oppettavat' sua - voit <b>you</b> vain luottaa omaan itseesi!<P>

Is "you" the same in Finnish?

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SoulRiser Wrote:Yay! Finnish version is here Smile

Just one question...

Elä luota että koulut 'oppettavat' sua - voit <b>you</b> vain luottaa omaan itseesi!<P>

Is "you" the same in Finnish?

Oops, no it is not, just move the sentence forward a bit, placing "sua" where the you is, and the rest just follows it normally. I must have missed out the "box" of code as I scanned through it.

Oh, and another thing I seem to have missed, towards the bottom of the page, after the psychologist's message, the word "anything" should be "mitään"

Sorry about that.

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Ah... no problem Smile

So it should be like this?
Elä luota että koulut 'oppettavat' sua - voit <b>sua</b> vain luottaa omaan itseesi!
Not sure what you mean by moving the sentence forward.

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SoulRiser Wrote:Ah... no problem Smile

So it should be like this?
Elä luota että koulut 'oppettavat' sua - voit <b>sua</b> vain luottaa omaan itseesi!
Not sure what you mean by moving the sentence forward.

Like this Elä luota että koulut 'oppettavat' <b>sua</b> - voit vain luottaa omaan itseesi!

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Fixed Biggrin

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I took the privelige of translating it to Swedish Smile

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Code:
$title2="Du har varje rätt att hata skolan";
$titlewords = "för att tvingad utbildning suger";

<h1>Det är ok att hata skolan:</h1> <h2>Det är inget fel med dig.</h2>

Welcome to the [Swedish] version of School Survival's intro page... The rest of this site is in English though, except for the Other Languages Forum.<P>

Om du hatar skolan, så kan föräldrar och lärare lätt stämpla dig som <a href="/boot_camp.php">'problematisk' eller 'mistänksam'</a> eller diagnostisera dig med en hög med utvecklingshinder. Men de kunde inte ha mer fel.P>

Det är ingenting fel med att hata skolan, det är inget fel att hata det som du tvingas att gjöra, och där du blir&quot;lärd&quot; saker som inte intresserar dig det minsta, och som skulle ta kål på dig, om uttråkning var dödligt.<P>

<a href="articles/school/Du_är_inte_värdelös.php"> Du är inte värdelös</a> om du inte får bra betyg, och du är inte mentalt sjuk om bara tanken på<a href="articles/school/Who_wouldnt_be_school_phobic.php">skolan skrämmer dig. </a>.<P>

För att vara ärlig, så är du säkert helt frisk.<P>

De säger att skolan är där för att lära? Tja, men att <a href="articles/school/School_is_boring.php"> vara uttråkad</a> är knappast ett sätt att lära något som helst! Inte konstigt att nästan ingen kommer ihåg vad de var tvungna att lära i skolan. <a href="/about/anti-school.php">Skolan handlar inte om att lära </a>, den handlar om <a href="articles/school/history/Horrors_Maybe_the_Schools_Are_Working_Just_Fine.php"> att träna folk att bli åtlydiga</a> mot de som har autoritet över de.<P>

Lita inte på att skolan ska 'utbilda' dig - bara <b>du</b> som kan utbilda dig själv!<P>

<P>
<blockquote>
<h3><a href="http://www.fitz-claridge.com/">Den här psykologen</a> har ett medelande för barn och unga som hatar skolan: </h3>
Jag, som en vuxen psykolog, skulle vilja säga till barn som hatar skolan: ni är inte ensamma. De flesta folk hatar också skolan, men oftast så känner de sig inte åtalade att säga det, och många kan knappast tänka om det så de vet inte själv hur de känner. Du är inte galen - du har inte ett akut mentalt problem (även som du kan utveckla ett om du stannar i skolan mot din vilja!); och du är inte en sämre människa för att vilja leva ditt liv som du vill, gjenom att gjöra det du tycker är rätt - det är det alla borde gjöra. Du är inte problemet: tvång är problemet. Att vara tvungen att gå till skolan är problemet. (<a href="articles/school/Who_wouldnt_be_school_phobic.php">läs hela artikkeln</a>)<P>
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<h2>Men barn behöver utbildning!</h2>

Om du tror att barn inte hadde lärt <b>någonting</b> om det inte hadde varit för skolan, så är du kanskje inte medveten som att det finns andra <a href="alternatives.php">alternativ till skolan</a>.
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Och om dina föräldrar inte låter dig testa några av alternativen, kan du stanna i skolan för att <a href="/kit/">sprida budskapet</a>. Om skolan gör dig galen, så har du en guide om <a href="/kit/how_to_survive.php">hur man överlever att hata skolan</a>. Men vad du än gjör, <a href="/kit/dont.php">ta inte sönder någonting eller skada någon annan</a>, för att det kommer bara att styrka teorien om att barn måste hållas under kontroll. Den här sidans design är svart och mörk av en enda grund - för att det ser coolt ut såRazz
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Om du har en websida, snälla <a href="/link_us.php">linka den till oss</a>! Här är några <a href="/support.php">andra sätt som du kan hjälpa</a>, till också.
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Förresten, <a href="/about/anti-school.php">"anti-skola" betyder inte "anti-utbildning"</a>.
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Om du behöver släppa lös på frustrering, så kan du <a href="/ramblings/add.php">lägga till en kommentar här</a>. Vem som helst kan skriva något, och det är helt anonymt.
<h2>Vad som finns på sidan</h2>

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<td><img src="/pix/badge.gif" alt="Laboro ad Nauseum - Working till you're sick"><p class=contents>(Använd gärna den här illustrationen för att linka till sidan)</p></td>
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<a href="<? echo $dah_url2; ?>/stuff_to_read.php">Stuff to read</a><BR>
Lite rekommenderad läsning.<P>

<a href="/kit/">Survival Kit</a><BR>
Hur du kan överleva i skolan, och gjöra en skillnad på samma gång.<P>

<a href="/answers/">FAQ</a><BR>
(Svar på ofta frågade frågor (råd och hjälp).<P>

<a href="/comic_relief/">Comic Relief</a><BR>
Lite saker att lätta på bördan.<P>

<a href="/phpbb/">Forums</a><BR>
Om du bestämmer dig för att stanna.<P>

<a href="/support.php">Spread the word</a><BR>
Informera andra om School Survival Smile<P>

<p class=contents>... och mycket mer under den vänstra menyen.</p>
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Cool, thanks Smile
I'll get it up there soon.

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Would it be possible to translate this sentence as well?

Welcome to the Swedish version of School Survival's intro page... The rest of this site is in English though, except for the Other Languages Forum.

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I'm just thinking - this isn't anything we can fix, but considering most people here speak exclusively english, a person from Sweden is going to find it difficult to be understood.
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It worked out for shadows_4515.

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Maybe, but I've lived in Sweden more than 10 years, and I get along quite well with English. Of course the same can be said with Spanish, French and Finnish (languages that are also on the frontpage). Idk, you don't have to post it, I just had a boring class and translated it (we all have a personal pc in school).

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Translation:

Välkommen till den Svenska versionen av School Survival's introduktionssida. Resten av sidan är på Engelska därimot, förutom "Andra Språk" forumet.
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http://www.school-survival.net/svenska.php Smile

It'd be hard for someone who didn't speak English at all, but unless they were speaking a really rare language, I think there'd probably be at least one person here who'd be able to understand them.

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Re: Translating School Survival's Introduction Page

Umm...not trying to sound like a prick or anything, but the french translation has a few spelling mistakes and some of the sentences seem weird (it's mostly fine other than that).

Should I try fixing the mistakes?

edit:

I retranslated the page into french and redid a few of the sentences, but I couldn't type most of the accented letters (I'm on my school laptop which has no french input system and alt codes only go so far...). Later tonight when I have access to my PC I'll probably fix the accents.

Also, I wouldn't mind translating other parts of this site into french if the need arises. I owe a lot to this site Razz

Code:
$title2="Vous avez le droit de détester l’école ";
$titlewords = "parce que l’éducation obligatoire pue";

<h1>Ce n’est pas mal de détester l’école:</h1> <h2>Il n’y a rien de mal avec vous.</h2>

Bienvenue  la traduction francaise de l’introduction de ce site…le reste du site est en anglais par contre, sauf pour la section des langues etrangeres dans le forum. <P>

Si vous n’aimez pas l’ecole, vos parents et vos enseignants pourraient rapidement vous qualifier comme un jeune<a href="/boot_camp.php">trouble ou delinquant</a>. Ils  pourraient meme trouvez en vous des problemes de comportements. Rien ne pourrait etre plus eloigne de la verite.<P>

Il n’y a rien de mal avec celui qui n’aime pas l’ecole, et il n’y a rien de mal avec celui qui deteste etre oblige d’aller a l’ecole pour apprendre des choses tellement ennuyantes qu’elles serait mortelles si l’ennui pouvait tuer. <P>

<a href="articles/school/Youre_not_worthless.php">Vous n’etes pas sans valeur </a> si vous n’avez pas de bons rendements scolaires, et vous n’etes pas malade de la tete si<a href="articles/school/Who_wouldnt_be_school_phobic.php">l’ecole vous fait peur. </a>.<P>

En fait, vous etes probablement completement sain de l’esprit.<P>

On dit que l’ecole existe pour apprendre? Eh bien, <a href="articles/school/School_is_boring.php">etre ennuye a la journee longue </a> n’est certainement pas une bonne facon d’apprendre quoi que ce soit! Ce n’est pas surprenant que presque personne ne peut se souvenir de ce qu’il a appris a l’ecole. <a href="/about/anti-school.php">L’ecole n’est pas pour apprendre </a>, mais bien pour <a href="articles/school/history/Horrors_Maybe_the_Schools_Are_Working_Just_Fine.php">vous transformer en travailleur obeissant </a> qui ne questionne jamais les autorites.<P>

Ne faites pas confiance a l’ecole en ce qui concerne votre education – il n’y a que <b>vous</b> qui puisse s’occuper de votre education. <P>

<P>
<blockquote>
<h3><a href="http://www.fitz-claridge.com/">Ce psychologue </a>  a ce message pour les jeunes qui detestent l’ecole:</h3>
En tant qu’adulte et psychologue, j’aimerais dire ceci aux jeunes qui detestent l’ecole: Vous n’etes pas seuls. Beaucoup de gens detestent l’ecole aussi, mais la plupart ne croient pas que c’est leur devoir de l’affirmer. En plus, plusieurs personnes ne peuvent meme pas penser à l’ecole et connaitre leurs sentiments face a l’ecole tellement qu’ils en sont degoutes. Vous n’etes pas fous, vous n’avez pas de grave problem psychologique interieur (mais sachez que vous en developperez un si vous restez a l’ecole contre votre gre!), et vous n’etes certainement pas un mechant si vous voulez simplement vouloir vivre votre vie comme vous le voulez. Chacun devrait pouvoir accomplir ce qu’il veut accomplir dans la vie. Le problem n’est pas avec vous – il est plutot avec la coercition et l’obligation de se presenter a l’ecole. (<a href="articles/school/Who_wouldnt_be_school_phobic.php">lire le reste de l’article (en anglais) </a>)<P>
</blockquote>

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<h2>Mais les jeunes doivent etre eduques!</h2>

Si vous croyez que les enfants et les jeunes n’apprendraient rien sans l’ecole, vous n’etes probablement pas au courant <a href="alternatives.php">des alternatives.</a>.
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Si vos parents ne vous laissent pas la liberte d’essayer les alternatives, vous pouvez quand meme <a href="/kit/"> repandre le message.</a>. Si l’ecole vous rends malade, jetez un coup d’oeil  <a href="/kit/how_to_survive.php">ici </a> pour apprendre comment survivre. Mais qu’importe ce que vous faites, ne <a href="/kit/dont.php">faites jamais le mal </a>, car cela ne ferait qu’empirer le stereotype qui dicte que les jeunes sont hors de controle. Le design de ce site est noir et lugubre pour une seule raison: c’est plus cool : P <P>
Si vous avez des sites webs, nous vous invitons a <a href="/link_us.php">placer des liens envers nous </a>! Voici quelques autres <a href="/support.php">facons d’aider .</a>.
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Il est aussi important de comprendre que <a href="/about/anti-school.php">"anti-école"  ne veut pas dire "anti-education"</a>.
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Si vous avez besoin d’en parler ou de faire part de vos experiences, vous pouvez toujours <a href="/ramblings/add.php"> ajouter un message ici.</a>. N’importe qui peut ecrire et c’est completement anonyme.

<h2>Ce qu’il y a sur ce site: </h2>

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    <td><img src="/pix/badge.gif" alt="Laboro ad Nauseum – Travailler jusqu’a la maladie"><p class=contents>(Vous pouvez utiliser cette image pour creer des links envers notre site)</p></td>
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<a href="<? echo $dah_url2; ?>/stuff_to_read.php">A lire </a><BR>
Quelques ecrits recommandes.<P>

<a href="/kit/">Survival Kit</a><BR>
Comment survive et apporter des changements positives durant votre sejour a l’ecole.<P>

<a href="/answers/">FAQ</a><BR>
Reponses aux questions posees frequemment (conseils).<P>

<a href="/comic_relief/">Choses droles </a><BR>
Quelques amusements pour mieux digerer la douleur.<P>

<a href="/phpbb/">Forums</a><BR>
Pour ceux qui veulent rester.<P>

<a href="/support.php">Repandez le message</a><BR>
Presentez ce site a qui que ce soit :)<P>

<p class=contents>...et beaucoup plus sur la barre de navigation a gauche.</p>
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Cool. I'll need those accent things though, because I have no clue where they're supposed to go Laugh

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Here's the Czech (čeština) translation:

$title2="Máte právo nenávidět školu,";
$titlewords = "protože nucené vzdělávání je k ničemu";

<h1>Je normální nenávidět školu:</h1> <h2>Jste naprosto v pořádku.</h2>

Vítejte na české verzi úvodní stránky School Survival (Přežití školy). Zbytek těchto stránek je anglicky, kromě fóra "Other Languages" (Jiné jazyky).<P>

Pokud nenávidíte školu, rodiče a učitelé Vás možná rychle označí za <a href="/boot_camp.php">"problémové" či "vzdorovité"</a> nebo Vám diagnostují pytel poruch. Nic by nemohlo být vzdálenější pravdě.<P>

Není špatné nenávidět školu, není špatné nenávidět být nucen chodit někam kam nechcete a &quot;učen&quot; věcem, které Vás nezajímají, způsoby, které by Vás zabily kdyby nuda byla smrtelná.<P>

<a href="articles/school/Youre_not_worthless.php">Nejste zbyteční</a> pokud nedostáváte dobré známky a nemáte duševní poruchu pokud Vás pouhé pomyšlení <a href="articles/school/Who_wouldnt_be_school_phobic.php">na školu děsí</a>.<P>

Ve skutečnosti jste nejspíš naprosto příčetní.<P>

Škola prý slouží k učení? No, <a href="articles/school/School_is_boring.php">nudění se</a> není zrovna dobrý způsob jak se něco naučit! Není divu, že si nikdo nepamatuje to, co se ve škole museli našprtat. <a href="/about/anti-school.php">Škola není k učení</a>, je k<a href="articles/school/history/Horrors_Maybe_the_Schools_Are_Working_Just_Fine.php">vycvičení lidí k poslušnosti</a> vůči autoritě.<P>

Nespoléhejte na školu aby Vás vzdělalala - s tím se můžete spolehnout pouze na <b>sebe</b>! <P>

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<h3><a href="http://www.fitz-claridge.com/">Tento psycholog</a> vzkazuje dětem, které nenávidí školu:</h3>
Jako dospělý a psycholog vzkazuji všem dětem co nenávidí školu: nejste sami. Většina lidí ji nenávidí, ale většina se to neopovažuje říct, a mnoho o ní radši nepřemýšlí a tak ani neví jak se cítí. Nejste šílení – nemáte těžký psychologický problém (ale možná budete mít pokud zůstanete ve škole proti své vůli!); a nejste špatní jen proto, že chcete žít život po svém a dělatto, co si myslíte, že je správné – to by měli dělat všichni. Vy nejste problém: donucování je problém. Nucená školní docházka je problém. (<a href="articles/school/Who_wouldnt_be_school_phobic.php">přečtěte si celý článek</a>)<P>
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<h2>Ale děti potřebují vzdělání!</h2>

Pokud si myslíte, že by se děti <b>nic</b> nenaučili kdyby nebylo školy, možná nevíte o <a href="alternatives.php">alternativám vůči škole</a>.
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A pokud Vás rodiče nenechají vyzkoušet alternativy, můžete zůstat ve škole a <a href="/kit/">nepřestávat upozorňovat na porušování dětských, studentských a lidských práv</a>. Pokud máte pocit, že ze školy zešílíte, tady je příručka <a href="/kit/how_to_survive.php">jak přežít pokud nenávidíte školu</a>. Ať už uděláte cokoli, <a href="/kit/dont.php">neničte majetek nebo neubližijte ostatním</a>, protže to jen podpoří mylnou domněnku, že děti je potřeba ovládat. Design této stránky je tmavý a ponurý jen z jednoho důvodu- protože tak vypadá dobře Razz
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Pokud máte webovou stránku, prosím <a href="/link_us.php">přidejte odkaz na nás</a>! Zde jsou <a href="/support.php">další způsoby jak můžete pomoct</a>.
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Mimochodem, <a href="/about/anti-school.php">"proti-škole" neznamená "proti-vzdělání"</a>.
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Pokud se potřebujete vylít vztek, můžete<a href="/ramblings/add.php">přidat "rambling" (napsat o tom, co Vás štve) zde</a>. Každý může něco napsat a je to naprosto anonymní.

<h2>Co zde najdete</h2>

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By the way, do we intend to have other-language versions of some of the other pages too? I mean, I think it could be quite useful, the main page doesn't really provide that much information. Though I'm not proposing to have something like the Tor project does:http://www.torproject.org/translation-status.html.en, a well designed system with priority levels, I think we should aim to translate the couple of key articles (School is boring, Anti-school, Who wouldn't be ‘school phobic’?) into world languages.

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Re: Translating School Survival's Introduction Page

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Quote:By the way, do we intend to have other-language versions of some of the other pages too? I mean, I think it could be quite useful, the main page doesn't really provide that much information. Though I'm not proposing to have something like the Tor project does:http://www.torproject.org/translation-status.html.en, a well designed system with priority levels, I think we should aim to translate the couple of key articles (School is boring, Anti-school, Who wouldn't be ‘school phobic’?) into world languages.

That's a good idea... I think this one would also be a good one to translate, because it sort of summarizes everything to some extent. There would have to be a list on the translated intro for each language that says which articles are available in that language, though... either that or just change the links in the intro itself, but then they'll have to click around to get lucky Razz

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Re: Translating School Survival's Introduction Page

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$title2="Ai toate drepturile sa urasti scoala";
$titlewords = "pentru ca educatia fortata e aiurea";

<h1>E normal sa urasti scoala:</h1> <h2>Nu ai nicio problema mentala.</h2>

Bine ati venit pe versiunea romaneasca a paginii de introducere "School Survival"... Restul sitului este in engleza, cu exceptia forumului pentru alte limbi.<P>

Daca urasti scoala, parintii si profesorii ar putea sa te numeasca <a href="/boot_camp.php">'problematic' sau 'obraznic'</a> sau sa te numeasca bolnav de fel de fel de boli. Nimic nu ar putea fi mai departe de adevar.<P>

Nu e nimic anormal in a ura scoala, nu e nimic anormal in a fi fortat sa te duci intr-un loc unde nu vrei sa te duci si sa fii &quot;invatat&quot; lucruri care nu te intereseaza intr-un mod in care te-ar face sa crezi ca plictiseala e letala.<P>

<a href="articles/school/Youre_not_worthless.php">Nu esti nefolositor</a> daca nu iei note bune, si nu esti bolnav psihic daca pana si gandul <a href="articles/school/Who_wouldnt_be_school_phobic.php">de a te duce la scoala te sperie</a>.<P>

Defapt, probabil esti cat se poate de sanatos din punct de vedere psihic.<P>

Se zice ca scoala e pentru a invata? Pai, <a href="articles/school/School_is_boring.php">plictiseala</a> nu e un mod de a invata ceva! Nici nu e de mirare ca nu-si mai aminteste nimeni din ce au fost fortati sa memoreze la scoala. <a href="/about/anti-school.php">Scoala nu are rolul de a invata</a>, ci are rolul de a <a href="articles/school/history/Horrors_Maybe_the_Schools_Are_Working_Just_Fine.php">invata elevii sa fie ascultatori</a> fata de cei cu autoritate.<P>

Nu lasa scoala sa te  'educe' - numai <b>tu</b> te poti educa singur!<P>

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<h3><a href="http://www.fitz-claridge.com/">Acest psiholog</a> are un mesaj pentru elevii care urasc scoala:</h3>
Eu, ca si adult si psiholog, vreau sa le spun tuturor elevilor care urasc scoala: nu sunteti singuri. Majoritatea o urasc, dar nu vor sa o zica, si multi nici nu pot sa se gandeasca la asta, deci nu au de unde sa stie cum se simt. Nu esti nebun – nu ai nicio boala psihologica (probabil o sa ai una daca stai la scoala impotriva vointei tale!); si nu esti rau daca vrei ca viata ta sa parcurga cum vrei tu, facand ce crezi tu ca e bine – toti ar trebui sa traiasca asa. Nu esti tu problmea: ci fortarea. Fortatul sa va duceti la scoala este problema. (<a href="articles/school/Who_wouldnt_be_school_phobic.php">cititi restul articolului</a>)<P>
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<h2>Dar copii au nevoie de o educatie!</h2>

Daca esti de parere ca micutii nu vor invata <b>nimic</b> daca nu ar fi scoala, poate nu stii ca exista <a href="alternatives.php">alternative</a>.
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Daca parintii nu vor nicio alternatica, poti sta in scoala sa <a href="/kit/">duci cuvantul mai departe</a>. Daca scoala te innebuneste, exista un ghild despre cum <a href="/kit/how_to_survive.php">sa supravietuiesti daca urasti scoala</a>. Orice ai faci, nu <a href="/kit/dont.php">sparge lucruri si nu rani pe nimeni</a>, asta va duce doar la intarirea stereotipului ca elevii trebuiesc tinuti sub control. Designul sitului este intunecat datorita unui singur motiv - pentru ca arata bine asa :P<P>
Daca ai un website, te rog sa <a href="/link_us.php">pui link catre websitul nostru</a>! Alte modalitati de ajutor sunt si <a href="/support.php">aici</a>.
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Apropo, <a href="/about/anti-school.php">"anti scoala" nu insemna "anti educatie"</a>.
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Daca vrei sa te descarci, poti <a href="/ramblings/add.php">posta aici</a>. Oricine poate posta sub anonimitate.

<h2>Ce e pe situl acesta</h2>

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<a href="/support.php">Dati cuvantul mai departe</a><BR>
Spune altor oameni despre School Survival :)<P>

<p class=contents>... si altele pe meniul din stanga.</p>
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