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Antidepressants
My mom is contemplating putting me on antidepressants because though school makes me hate my life, she maintains that I will have to get used to it. Evidently, altering someone's brain chemistry is more acceptable than homeschooling. That's right, people want to put me on the happy pill and pretend things are just swell. 1984 called, it wants its logic back.
The good die young, therefore I shall live forever.
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While I agree pharmaceuticals are over-prescribed...I also have faith in their ability to work.
Mostly because if I go twelve hours without them I turn insanely emo and violent and self-destructive or ecstatic and manic and careless.
But medications have as much potential to make things worse as they do to make things better.
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Wow this has made me realize
How school has turned me into a pyschaotic monster who wants to kill everyone in his school
If i told my parents this they will probably say that I need to go to church....
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Quote:My mom is contemplating putting me on antidepressants because though scho ol makes me hate my life, she maintains that I will have to get used to it. Evidently, altering someone's brain chemistry is more acceptable than homeschooling.
Yeah, that's right, life is supposed to be miserable. 
The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me. Though she probably means well and all that. There are other alternatives besides homeschooling too, maybe she needs to read a bit about those.
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Re: Antidepressants
Faust Wrote:And please forgive the typos, I'm posting from a PSP.
Fixed them.  (LOL Ironic)
And about pills- psychologists should always be gone to first, then psychiatrists.
psychologists - will try to fix the problem.
psychiatrists- will try to cover it up.
I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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They need to solve the problem, not cover it up.
I bottle up my feelings, the only way I feel better about a problem is if its solved. When I know I'll be dealing with the same problem for the next two and a half years, doing the same thing everyday, it kind of depresses me. I mostly get mad, or agitated, thinking about that makes me feeling HOPELESS. It takes a lot to make me feel hopeless. But I endure....
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Re: Antidepressants
Faust Wrote:My mom is contemplating putting me on antidepressants because though school makes me hate my life, she maintains that I will have to get used to it. Evidently, altering someone's brain chemistry is more acceptable than homeschooling. That's right, people want to put me on the happy pill and pretend things are just swell. 1984 called, it wants its logic back.
And please forgive the typos, I'm posting from a PSP.
that sucks.  your mom has no idea what we have to go through
There was once a time when I enjoyed going to school. . . but those days ended many years ago. . .
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every day at school.
 i always post stuff on ss through my psp. i'm posting on it right now!
There was once a time when I enjoyed going to school. . . but those days ended many years ago. . .
School is Hell
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darthmat, that's very wrong. I'm sure some psychiatrists try to cover up the problem, but the fact is that some people can't live without medication.
<lordpie> Life sucks so much right now. It seems I'm spending all of it doing math.
<Rosti_LFC> You are "Math Boy"
<Rosti_LFC> Doer of math
<Rosti_LFC> Unable to integrate with society. Only with functions of x
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I know that Thunder, i should have clarified that, my bad.
I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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Re: Antidepressants
darthmat Wrote:psychologists - will try to fix the problem.
psychiatrists- will try to cover it up.
Psychiatrists use a biomedical approach to solving mental problems. Psychologists can't do shit if your depressed because your brain isn't making enough of a certain chemical.
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Depends.
If you are medically depressed, then the only thing a psychologist can do is talk it out.
But if you are just really down, then a psychologist can help.
I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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Of course, this is not a chemical problem, it is a problem of me being coerced into doing something I despise. I will not take medicine for holding the belief that school is a heartless institution. It is a well-founded belief and a question of ethics to me.
It is not like I am ritualistically cutting off my genitals as an offering to the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I'm not mad.
Were there a mental component to my depression I would take something, but I know that drugs are not the answer to a physical stimulus such as School.
And I would have to concede that sometimes, prescription drugs are necessary. But in my particular case, they are useless.
And thank you Darthmat for fixing my spacing errors.
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Welcome. 
Tell your mom you are not nuts (although do you go to this site.. the insanity must have rubbed off...  ) and tell her what you just posted above.
I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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Faust Wrote:I'm not mad.
You're on this site. Of course you are.
<lordpie> Life sucks so much right now. It seems I'm spending all of it doing math.
<Rosti_LFC> You are "Math Boy"
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But he meant mad like insane, not angry.
Although i guess that still rings true.
I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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darthmat Wrote:Depends.
If you are medically depressed, then the only thing a psychiatrist can do is talk it out.
But if you are just really down, then a therapist can help.
Fixed.
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what exactly do you mean by that?
I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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Quote:Of course, this is not a chemical problem, it is a problem of me being coerced into doing something I despise. I will not take medicine for holding the belief that school is a heartless institution. It is a well-founded belief and a question of ethics to me.
It is not like I am ritualistically cutting off my genitals as an offering to the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I'm not mad.
Were there a mental component to my depression I would take something, but I know that drugs are not the answer to a physical stimulus such as School.
And I would have to concede that sometimes, prescription drugs are necessary. But in my particular case, they are useless.
You are obviously intelligent and can explain yourself quite well, so I think you should tell your mother all of this. Or write it to her in a letter if that's easier.
Both psychiatrists and psychologists can talk and prescribe drugs, but psychiatrists are more focused on the drugs (and disorders), while psychologists are more focused on the talking and "normal" problems. At least I think so. I wondered about that for a long time 
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Wait...that was false.
I don't know, you put psychologist in both spaces and I assumed you were differentiating between therapist approaches and psychiatrist aproaches, but it seems you didn't mention a psychiatrist approach at all...
Silly me.
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Wait.. i was right and HS was wrong??! It's a miracle!!
I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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Psychologist is just sort of a general term as I understand it. Anyone who has their profession in the psychology field seems like a psychologist to me. Medication, or not.
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Psychologist's can not prescribe medication, and must have a P.H.D.
Anything less is a Social Worker. (not including in the people who can prescribe)
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when people get depressed it's not a chemical problem so why the hell do people believe this shit
that antidepressants will work.society is becoming really sad and that shows you how gullible and stupid
society is.
Telling people to do something without giving a reason compels them to rebel not to obey-Avenger
We need to learn not to be afraid of making mistakes all the time-Avenger
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1.life sucks most of the time
2.sex is natural and it feels good
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Avenger Wrote:when people get depressed it's not a chemical problem so why the hell do people believe this shit
that antidepressants will work.
Because sometimes it is a chemical problem.
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Happy Camper Wrote:Avenger Wrote:when people get depressed it's not a chemical problem so why the hell do people believe this shit
that antidepressants will work.
Because sometimes it is a chemical problem.
most of the time i doubt it is i think most of the time it's because the way everything is that gets people depressed
Telling people to do something without giving a reason compels them to rebel not to obey-Avenger
We need to learn not to be afraid of making mistakes all the time-Avenger
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Really one of the defining (and most sucky) things about clinical depression is that you don't really have any trauma or pain to blame your problems all. You just feel like hopeless shit for no apparent reason.
Now unless you want to go Freud on our ass and insist depression always has subconscious roots that sensibly explain the emotion and behavior...
...unfinished sentence.
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start any thread that somehow relates to depression, or drugs that deal with depression and bigwolf and happy camper will swarm all over it like flies to shit.
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But before people go on the pills, they should at least try to work out their problems.
I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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darthmat Wrote:
But before people go on the pills, they should at least try to work out their problems.
definitely
Telling people to do something without giving a reason compels them to rebel not to obey-Avenger
We need to learn not to be afraid of making mistakes all the time-Avenger
FACTS OF LIFE:
1.life sucks most of the time
2.sex is natural and it feels good
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4.most people are idiots
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