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Avenger
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tired of parents
i'm tired of having to ask my parents if i can do this or that
and i'm tired of them getting pissed off if i do something wrong,or getting pissed at them
i'm sick of it,any body ave any suggestions on what i can do.because i'm tired of it and it pisses me off
Telling people to do something without giving a reason compels them to rebel not to obey-Avenger
We need to learn not to be afraid of making mistakes all the time-Avenger
FACTS OF LIFE:
1.life sucks most of the time
2.sex is natural and it feels good
3.everybody can be an asshole
4.most people are idiots
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just tell them to fuck themselves. what are they going to do? beat you? if they do they'll get arrested. of course, this won't work if they have something you want and can legally withold, but it's worth thinking about as a last resort.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
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Rebelnerd Wrote:just tell them to fuck themselves. what are they going to do? beat you? if they do they'll get arrested. of course, this won't work if they have something you want and can legally withold, but it's worth thinking about as a last resort.
i'm 14 so i have no car and nowhere to go so this wouldn't work
Telling people to do something without giving a reason compels them to rebel not to obey-Avenger
We need to learn not to be afraid of making mistakes all the time-Avenger
FACTS OF LIFE:
1.life sucks most of the time
2.sex is natural and it feels good
3.everybody can be an asshole
4.most people are idiots
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i didn't say "leave" i said just reject their authority and see what happens. i wouldn't recommend doing this lightly, but if it ever get absolutely unbearable but not child protective services-unbearable, just say fuck it. life won't be as luxurious and don't expect a lot of christmas presents, but they can't force you physically without a legal battle.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
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Rebelnerd Wrote:i didn't say "leave" i said just reject their authority and see what happens. i wouldn't recommend doing this lightly, but if it ever get absolutely unbearable but not child protective services-unbearable, just say fuck it. life won't be as luxurious and don't expect a lot of christmas presents, but they can't force you physically without a legal battle.
my parents aren't that bad i just get annoyed at asking them to do this or that,if it weren't for having to ask them to do stuff,i wouldn't care about living with them.but if i reject their authority they will get pissed,that and even if i said fuck you i have no car so i couldn't do stuff(thats another problem can anyone help on that)
Telling people to do something without giving a reason compels them to rebel not to obey-Avenger
We need to learn not to be afraid of making mistakes all the time-Avenger
FACTS OF LIFE:
1.life sucks most of the time
2.sex is natural and it feels good
3.everybody can be an asshole
4.most people are idiots
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"It's easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to get permission"
Don't ask for anything unless it's really really really important and means a lot to you. For everything else, do it anyway, and if they freak out, say "I didn't think it was important enough to bother asking about".
I dunno. I'm not really good at dealing with unreasonable people. I find it to be a waste of effort. If you can think of some super sneaky way to manipulate them, go for it. Find their weaknesses and exploit them. For example: if they'll let you do stuff if you're crying and begging.... use it. But only for the really important things, if there's no other way to get it.
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Avenger Wrote:my parents aren't that bad i just get annoyed at asking them to do this or that,if it weren't for having to ask them to do stuff,i wouldn't care about living with them.but if i reject their authority they will get pissed,that and even if i said fuck you i have no car so i couldn't do stuff(thats another problem can anyone help on that)
hmm, in that case i don't know. i know how you feel, is stuff too far away to bike or walk?
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
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Rebelnerd Wrote:Avenger Wrote:my parents aren't that bad i just get annoyed at asking them to do this or that,if it weren't for having to ask them to do stuff,i wouldn't care about living with them.but if i reject their authority they will get pissed,that and even if i said fuck you i have no car so i couldn't do stuff(thats another problem can anyone help on that)
hmm, in that case i don't know. i know how you feel, is stuff too far away to bike or walk?
ya,stores are close but all my friends live far away
Telling people to do something without giving a reason compels them to rebel not to obey-Avenger
We need to learn not to be afraid of making mistakes all the time-Avenger
FACTS OF LIFE:
1.life sucks most of the time
2.sex is natural and it feels good
3.everybody can be an asshole
4.most people are idiots
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do they have cars? maybe they could pick you up. or if their parents are better they can drive them to where you are.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
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but then my parents would try to take stuff away
Telling people to do something without giving a reason compels them to rebel not to obey-Avenger
We need to learn not to be afraid of making mistakes all the time-Avenger
FACTS OF LIFE:
1.life sucks most of the time
2.sex is natural and it feels good
3.everybody can be an asshole
4.most people are idiots
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i hate this, i get in fights with them, feel like i wanna kill sumone, almost run away (acually i did practically once) and then later, they apologize, i feel like crap, then get mad at myself for switching my fuking emotions, grrrrrrrrrrrrr i really dont know, its one of those mysteries on life
i am me myself and i
we are very much the same
different types of entities
under one single name
Flock <3
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damn i wish i could get emancipated somehow
Telling people to do something without giving a reason compels them to rebel not to obey-Avenger
We need to learn not to be afraid of making mistakes all the time-Avenger
FACTS OF LIFE:
1.life sucks most of the time
2.sex is natural and it feels good
3.everybody can be an asshole
4.most people are idiots
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You get your freedom at 18+
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Shadow_5415 Wrote:You get your freedom at 18+
i know but thats 3 and a half long years
Telling people to do something without giving a reason compels them to rebel not to obey-Avenger
We need to learn not to be afraid of making mistakes all the time-Avenger
FACTS OF LIFE:
1.life sucks most of the time
2.sex is natural and it feels good
3.everybody can be an asshole
4.most people are idiots
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wow that reply cam fast =O
Deal with it ?!
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Shadow_5415 Wrote:You get your freedom at 18+
We shouldn't have to deal with being lesser beings for the first 18 years of our life. Its fucked up.
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Suicidal-kun Wrote:Shadow_5415 Wrote:You get your freedom at 18+
We shouldn't have to deal with being lesser beings for the first 18 years of our life. Its fucked up.
completely true
Telling people to do something without giving a reason compels them to rebel not to obey-Avenger
We need to learn not to be afraid of making mistakes all the time-Avenger
FACTS OF LIFE:
1.life sucks most of the time
2.sex is natural and it feels good
3.everybody can be an asshole
4.most people are idiots
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Shadow_5415 Wrote:wow that reply cam fast =O
Deal with it ?!
fuck that i don't want to deal with it
Telling people to do something without giving a reason compels them to rebel not to obey-Avenger
We need to learn not to be afraid of making mistakes all the time-Avenger
FACTS OF LIFE:
1.life sucks most of the time
2.sex is natural and it feels good
3.everybody can be an asshole
4.most people are idiots
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I'm sick and tired of my overseer as well.
“When an individual is protesting society's refusal to acknowledge his dignity as a human being, his very act of protest confers dignity on him.”
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Avenger Wrote:Shadow_5415 Wrote:wow that reply cam fast =O
Deal with it ?!
fuck that i don't want to deal with it
ok,any other suggestion than "dealing with it?" ?
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put them in a box and send them to mars...or put them in a closet
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