Unbeileivably annoying teacher!

[Seymour Butts]

Ok. First, let me just explain what i'm saying here.
My English teacher is an annoying *****! Why?
First of all, she gives us heaps of work, and acts as if it's nothing. Then, she gives us homework ALL THE TIME!! The most annoying aspect of this is the fact that 90% of her work is so pointless that it makes me sick! Also, she treats us like we're five year olds. She has this routine that at the end of every lesson, she makes everyone stand up, one at a time, and makes everyone else in the class applaud them. That is NOT normal! Again, this ties in with something ELSE I'm going to say about her: She can't keep order. There are a few people in my class that shout out, swear, And even insult the teacher in front of everyone else! Does she at least give them a warning? HELL NO! Seeing as miss ***** can't keep order, she picks on the quiet kid because he whispered ONE WORD to his friend! But the worst has yet to come. She SMILES through it all!!! Yes, you heard me! Unaware of everything she does wrong as a teacher, she smiles at us! And when I give her the look of 'Are you crazy woman?!' She gives me the annoying smile again!
...right, that's all I guess. I know I said 'She' too much, but who cares? What I want to know is how to handle this teacher! Suggestions?

[SoulRiser]

... What's the purpose of that applause thing supposed to be?
Has anyone ever asked her?

[Milk2Go]

Sort of reminds me of one of my old 5th grade teachers. She'd use this old phonograph to play old Jazz music from the '30s, and make us dance for her amusement.
My current English teacher gives us two chapters of To Kill a Mockingbird a night (which is about 30-40 pages, each page using a fine-print-like font), and we'd have to do these two-paragraph "reading responses" for each chapter. If that wasn't enough, we also have a quiz on the two chapters every single fucking day. And at the end of the whole book, we need to write this huge-ass essay.

[akdonn]

Seymour Butts:

Can I ask--is this a young teacher just out of college or a long-time teacher?

If she is a young teacher then I think she is just doing what she is doing because she is following a script. She might be scared. You might be able to soften her up with some finesse.

If she is a seasoned teacher she knows you can't do anything about how she runs the class and she has been doing it that way for so long that she doesn't care. You will probably have to double-team her.

Either way you lose, so suck it up guy!

In my 6th grade class I had a kid who had Turret's Syndrome, where he would start saying all kinds of bad words when he got nervous. He couldn't help it, but the same kids had been in the same class since kindergarten and they knew how to double-team a teacher and trigger the TS kid. They would start doing things that caused me to have to start challenging them back and when it got to a certain level the kid with TS would kick in. In retrospect it was kind of funny, but it's the kind of thing that "teaches a teacher" to be rigid and uncompromising.

Oh, did I mention that teachers are people too?

[youvebeenthunderstruck]

Teachers are people, and teaching can be a difficult job. There are good teachers and bad teachers, same as in almost anything.

[Jackass McAwesome]

Quote:Either way you lose, so suck it up guy!

You.

Please remind me why the fuck you're here.

[youvebeenthunderstruck]

It was a figure of speech.

[Jackass McAwesome]

I don't care. It's offending.

[Guest]

I really think she is nervous...
Especially since she tries to smile through it all...

[David B.]

I only really find teachers annoying if they start recycling the same generic assignments that every other teacher in every other class or subject does. For example, if I have to make 1 more fake news paper depicting the times of whatever century, I'm going to have a serious talk with somebody - Teachers seem to be borrowing generic class assignment ideas - I view it as a bit of a cop-out.

The one thing that really pisses me off is when some teachers go on extended rants particularly about how college is the only way to make a decent living and without it, your only hope is to flip burgers - completely ignoring that 4/5 of the world's richest people either had no formal training or dropped out early. I can understand giving monologues on the benefits [pros or even cons] of college, trade schools, and etc - that helps young people make informed and educated decisions. I hate it when teachers use scare tactics to convince people of their ideologies. Freshmen who hear this end up going out and basing their lives on something they don't want to do. There's so much of this going on [in my school at least] that a lot of freshmen become really confused.

A lot students don't know what they want to do after high school. I can't help but wonder if stuff like this could possibly be one of the reasons why.

[Seymour Butts]

akdonn Wrote:Seymour Butts:

Can I ask--is this a young teacher just out of college or a long-time teacher?

If she is a young teacher then I think she is just doing what she is doing because she is following a script. She might be scared. You might be able to soften her up with some finesse.

If she is a seasoned teacher she knows you can't do anything about how she runs the class and she has been doing it that way for so long that she doesn't care. You will probably have to double-team her.

Either way you lose, so suck it up guy!

In my 6th grade class I had a kid who had Turret's Syndrome, where he would start saying all kinds of bad words when he got nervous. He couldn't help it, but the same kids had been in the same class since kindergarten and they knew how to double-team a teacher and trigger the TS kid. They would start doing things that caused me to have to start challenging them back and when it got to a certain level the kid with TS would kick in. In retrospect it was kind of funny, but it's the kind of thing that "teaches a teacher" to be rigid and uncompromising.

Oh, did I mention that teachers are people too?

If you think teachers are people too, why are you even on this site?

[SoulRiser]

Quote:If you think teachers are people too, why are you even on this site?

But... teachers are people.

[akdonn]

David B.

You have a good point there, David. I think teachers fail to do original lesson plans because they are lazy. It is a lot of work to have fresh ideas and initiate new things instead of rehashing something already done a million times. It is also very difficult to try and relate on an individual basis with every single student, but that is what I do myself.

You hit on another of my pet peeves with teachers who try to indoctrinate their students. Just by telling kids they should go to college can mean the students won't take it seriously if the kids don't take anything else you tell them seriously.

Public Education has become a club for certain people with hidden agendas to beat everybody over the head. It begins in the universities where they try to indoctrinate all teachers but the instructors haven't been in a public school themselves in decades.

Most men have gotten out of the profession because they have been so alienated by a culture that says anybody who has given birth has an inherent right to be a teacher. Many of these women act like men are inherently prone to say and do inappropriate things. It's part of the victim mentality that has now flooded our courts and jails and ultimately alienates students from public education, too.

NOTE: These are my views and I could be wrong...

[Alucard483]

BobManPerson Wrote:Sort of reminds me of one of my old 5th grade teachers. She'd use this old phonograph to play old Jazz music from the '30s, and make us dance for her amusement.
My current English teacher gives us two chapters of To Kill a Mockingbird a night (which is about 30-40 pages, each page using a fine-print-like font), and we'd have to do these two-paragraph "reading responses" for each chapter. If that wasn't enough, we also have a quiz on the two chapters every single fucking day. And at the end of the whole book, we need to write this huge-ass essay.

For 5th grade that sounds like a bit much however at my grade I would kill for it that easy. We have to read 2 chapters a night (40-70 pages). Notes are optional. However we still have a test about each chapter. However these are not 'question' quizes. these are analitical quizes. Meaning we are given a quote of about a paragraph. We then have to identify who said it, the context (what was happening when it was said) and what it means plus identify any sybolism in it (ussually 2 or three things).

[Darthmat]

SoulRiser Wrote:

Quote:If you think teachers are people too, why are you even on this site?

But... teachers are people.

Wow, I was pissed at Akdonn and his pompousness in this thread, until I read that.

Teachers are just as human as you and I; they deserve the same respect any human does.

[Jackass McAwesome]

Quote:You have a good point there, David. I think teachers fail to do original lesson plans because they are lazy. It is a lot of work to have fresh ideas and initiate new things instead of rehashing something already done a million times. It is also very difficult to try and relate on an individual basis with every single student, but that is what I do myself.

Kay. You just admitted that teachers do generic lessons because they're lazy. Now, you open way for the reason that people are bored at school: most teachers are lazy. Their generic lessons bore us, and we don't like going to school because of it. Most teachers don't care and are in it for the money. This is how my literature teacher does it:

Monday- Vocabulary
Tuesday- More Vocabulary or Story stuff
Wednesday- Go over vocabulary and more Story stuff.
Thursday- Something interesting, but usually sucks
Friday- VOCABULARY TEST ZOMFG

[akdonn]

Oni-Chiisu:

Cut me some slack, would ya? All teachers don't do generic lessons because they are lazy just as all kids don't hate school because they are lazy. Some teachers actually think they are providing a learning experience that is predictable, and therefore meaningful for students at certain developmental stages, in which that is the best way to reach the students. There are many theories about how learning styles develop. Teachers are trained to use various approaches to presenting the material, and evaluating the measurable learning outcomes.

As a matter of fact, teachers are not paid very well among the different professions that exist. Additionally, teachers are subject to a lot of abusive interactions and are micro-managed. I can tell you I have made a hell of a lot better money doing much easier jobs than I do as a teacher!

I would say your English teacher has provided a very specific framework for how you will go through the material. I don't know if that is a bad way to do it, but at least you aren't given a bunch of random surprises each week!

[Milk2Go]

Alucard483 Wrote:For 5th grade that sounds like a bit much

...I'm in 8th grade right now.

[Darthmat]

akdonn Wrote:As a matter of fact, teachers are not paid very well among the different professions that exist. Additionally, teachers are subject to a lot of abusive interactions and are micro-managed. I can tell you I have made a hell of a lot better money doing much easier jobs than I do as a teacher!

And that's an excuse to make kids lives miserable?

[Jackass McAwesome]

Quote:Some teachers actually think they are providing a learning experience that is predictable, and therefore meaningful for students at certain developmental stages, in which that is the best way to reach the students.

Then what's this about providing a fun learning experience I hear whenever I see teaching infomercials, and how at so and so school the teachers always give their students a balanced education, when the students disagree outright with them, posting videos on various sites of what really goes on. So your statement is wrong. I certain a lot of people would rather have a spontaneous teacher than have a duller than a brick teacher who makes us go on a schedule daily. I can understand ROTC because it's a military class. But nowhere else is this even redeemable acceptable by sane standards.

Quote:Cut me some slack, would ya?

Mr. Sunshine, you are a teacher, and you should therefore be used to people totally bitching you out on a daily basis. If you aren't, then that means the school system that you're in is better quality than the ones most of us go to. Maybe I should, based on this assessment, but you often come off as pompous to many members of SS.

Quote:There are many theories about how learning styles develop. Teachers are trained to use various approaches to presenting the material, and evaluating the measurable learning outcomes.

So uh. We're guinea pigs? I base that on how "theories" come up about how kids learn Dude, there's not enough TIME to evaluate us to a certain learning style and work from it. Not to mention you have about thirty people per class, so teachers will have a really hard fucking time doing so.

Quote:As a matter of fact, teachers are not paid very well among the different professions that exist. Additionally, teachers are subject to a lot of abusive interactions and are micro-managed. I can tell you I have made a hell of a lot better money doing much easier jobs than I do as a teacher!

Boo Hoo. I'd care more about your pay if you cared more about everyone else's shitty education. You should since you're a teacher, and you should be looking to fix it, which wouldn't be surprising since you're a teacher and you're here. But since you don't appear to, it's not my problem.

Quote:I would say your English teacher has provided a very specific framework for how you will go through the material. I don't know if that is a bad way to do it, but at least you aren't given a bunch of random surprises each week!

I don't think harassing a student for not doing vocabulary work, then attempting to keep him from leaving the class when called to leave is what you call specific framework. She later said that he'd not be going to college because of his tendency to be lazy! IT WAS THE GUY'S FIRST DAY FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. HOW THE SHIT WAS HE SUPPOSED TO KNOW ABOUT VOCABULARY.

[X]

darthmat Wrote:

SoulRiser Wrote:

Quote:If you think teachers are people too, why are you even on this site?

But... teachers are people.

Wow, I was pissed at Akdonn and his pompousness in this thread, until I read that.

Teachers are just as human as you and I; they deserve the same respect any human does.

Wtf no they don't, they make our lives living hell ( Well some, but most of them )

[Darthmat]

Well, they can lose the respect after they make your life a living hell, but not before.

To begin with, you should not respect them with a biased view, is what I am saying.

[akdonn]

darthmat:

Are you alleging that there are teachers who purposefully want to make kids' lives miserable? I guess there MIGHT be some teacher(s) who are that messed up, but the reality is that most teachers have what is sometimes called "missionary zeal" in which they think they are doing what they are doing because they think it is good for you.

I remember teachers that I thought I hated at the time I was in school but later realized they gave me something I needed. On the other hand there were also teachers who acted "palzy-wowzy" who were just blowing smoke.

[Darthmat]

Quote:I guess there MIGHT be some teacher(s) who are that messed up, but the reality is that most teachers have what is sometimes called "missionary zeal" in which they think they are doing what they are doing because they think it is good for you.

Hitler said that to.

[akdonn]

Oni-Chiisu:

Quote:Then what's this about providing a fun learning experience I hear whenever I see teaching infomercials

I think you are talking about the Sylvan Learning System, which is a private tutoring system. I worked for Sylvan in Anchorage about two years. It is a "school" only to the degree that kids who need to pass certain classes that they can't pass in public school (or homeschool) can get the course done at Sylvan. Parents have to pay an hourly rate--about $50/hr. in Alaska. There we tried to make learning fun as part of the deal. yeah, balanced education, right.

I guess you can accuse me of being as rotten as any rotten teacher you've ever had, Oni, but I think most of my students would disagree with you. I don't "candy-coat" my position--that you have a role in making your education successful--but I have been very successful with students who are not successful in traditional learning environments.

[Alucard483]

darthmat Wrote:

Quote:I guess there MIGHT be some teacher(s) who are that messed up, but the reality is that most teachers have what is sometimes called "missionary zeal" in which they think they are doing what they are doing because they think it is good for you.

Hitler said that to.

Ya... no he didnt

[Darthmat]

Yes, he said what I am doing is good for you, and believed it.

[Jackass McAwesome]

Ah, no.

I'm not thinking of Sylvan. Sylvan sucks and needs to burn and be forgotten.

No, you don't watch TV enough. There are actual programs that tell you to stay in school, to delete bullying altogether, etc. Basically, pro-school commercials that say school isn't a bad thing and show us the students having "fun", being called smart, eating ACTUAL INEXPENSIVE AND WELL-PREPARED FOOD AT LUNCHES and generally enjoying school. But these commercials do not show us the anti-school faction and what they think of their schools. This is false advertising =/

[Eidolon]

Oni-Chiisu Wrote:No, you don't watch TV enough.

Now that's something you don't hear very often.

[Alucard483]

darthmat Wrote:Yes, he said what I am doing is good for you, and believed it.

Produce a quote, and link to a trustable site/book confirming this quote