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Ummm... no. Its the media. We should focus on not raising idiotic dumbasses that can't think for themselves instead of reading retarded irrelevant magazines that focus on celebrity A and B.

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02-03-2008 10:14 AM
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media sucks

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I`ve been thinking about beauty a lot lately, and my own almost obssesive quest to gain it. Why is beauty so alluring. Well, beauty is power. Is is the sheer raw power to manipulate the way other people feel about you, and not having to even open your mouth to do it. People want you. People admire you. People put up with your shit, where in someone less attractive they wouldn`t. You can be the stupidest, most annoying person in the world, but if your beautiful, you will never have to be alone. Beauty is instant attention. It is exceptance. Who wouldn`t want this power.

Now, this said, just the idea that we hate ourselves for not being something we are not geneticaly made to be, is weird. Like, saying you`re white, would you ever look at a black person and hate, HATE yourself for not having their color skin. Probably not. Because your parents are white. You could not possibly control your skin melonoma levels. And, her having that color doesn`t make her better of worse then you. So, why then when we look at a very skinny model, do we hate ourselves for not looking like her. We were not geneticaly engineered to have that body. We really are not worse or better then her. We are just DIFFERENT. and DIFFERENT is the key word in all this. Different is ugly. Different is unfamiliar, and scary, and bad. We look different then media propoganda. After being exposed to a certain body type for your entire life, and not looking like it, of course your going to think something is wrong with how you look. You`re seposed to look like them. You`ve seen it your whole life, and that kind of person has all the power, the exceptance, the happiness. Really everyone is seposed to look like that, but we all have to stop eating and start running two hours a day like `they do``. Bullshit. Trust me, I starved myself, excersized like a mad women, went jogging every day (have you ever stopped to think about how weird jogging is. Imagin not knowing anything about jogging and comming to this country for the first time. Seeing people running around for no reason, for hours. You`d think they where retarded right. well thats not far from the truth) and I`ve never gotten any skinnier. It`s all a lie, but everyone believes it. And we need everbody, so we try to believe it too. But we don`t really. And that`s why we`re all here.
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I mean we`re all just cells and fat and bone. Are human bodies any more sacred then that of a mushroom. Would you look at a mushroom and say it`s uglier then another. No. Because we look at mushroms for what they are. Just an organic body that is what is is for the soul purpose of survival and reproduction (and a yummy food). Body image is just a symptom of a mass need for conformaty.
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*claps* yes!^

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I don't really think the media has that much to do with it. Your either born with a perfectionistic disposition making you more likely to develop anorexia or your not and you just go on little diet with no visible effect to the rest of the world. Some say ana is a lifestyle choice, I disagree it's something you get caught up in and some people want to recover and some are too scared to recover. This is what we were discussing in group therapy on Tuesday so it's my thoughts on the matter now.

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Uh, yeah..... no. Incorrect. You are the weakest link. Goodbye.

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I disagree with you, F_E. I used to be like everyone else when I was younger, whatever the trend was of the grade I was into.

Then I realized the kids in my grade were dumb shits.

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i also disagree. the media is a powerful thing. rent the movie camp jesus its the same exact thing

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yes it is, strange to see that there's so many people with the same mindset as them Noo

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We do "art" in all kinds of places, and the body can be one of those. It gets just boring when everyone paints the same thing.
starfish Wrote:Well, beauty is power. Is is the sheer raw power to manipulate the way other people feel about you, and not having to even open your mouth to do it. People want you. People admire you. People put up with your shit, where in someone less attractive they wouldn`t. You can be the stupidest, most annoying person in the world, but if your beautiful, you will never have to be alone. Beauty is instant attention. It is exceptance. Who wouldn`t want this power.
As you said, beauty is quite effective at attracting mortals, but one needs more than physical beauty to attract gods like me.
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lol you have quite a high opinion of yourself.

As for anorexia, that comes down to controle too. (I've recently had a controle theory breakthrough, about how we as humans are drawn to what we can controle, and repulsed by what we can't. It dictates almost everything we do.) Anorexics have the ability to alter their physical appearance just by not eating. I would totally be anorexic If I could loose weight by just not eating, but I don't, so I'm not. Anorexics see instant results. Just two days of not eating and their stomachs are flatter, their hip bones stick out more. Instant controle is a very deliciouse thing. It gets bad though because they need that constant controle, which means continuing not to eat to see results, and thats ultimitly unhealthy. I dont think it's that they're perfectionists. I think they are just people who have found something they can controle, and are addicted to doing it.
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Skinny people are ick. Yuck
I like meat on my boys and girls.

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...since when are you bi?
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youvebeenthunderstruck Wrote:...since when are you bi?
You don't have to want to have sex with someone to think he looks pretty.
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Your post made no sense.
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you make no sence

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Will Wrote:
youvebeenthunderstruck Wrote:...since when are you bi?
You don't have to want to have sex with someone to think he looks pretty.

I think what he means is that you can think that a person is attractive without wanting to have sex with them.

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Oh, right.
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starfish Wrote:Instant controle is a very deliciouse thing. It gets bad though because they need that constant controle, which means continuing not to eat to see results, and thats ultimitly unhealthy. I dont think it's that they're perfectionists. I think they are just people who have found something they can controle, and are addicted to doing it.
I agree, it is all about control(/controle?) but I would say that ana's are addicted to control to a degree but I'd also say they are preoccupied with their body image and don't want to be what could been seen as ugly.

However I disagree here (sorry) but I've had it and met loads of people, and it's pretty perfectionistic.
starfish Wrote:I dont think it's that they're perfectionists.
That would be incorrect, because this is what, a lot of people that have ana think perfection is http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z256 ... ook/o1.jpg and they want to get their. In my mind that is perfectionistic. Also you will find most people (especially younger girls) with ana have varying degrees of OCD. You will also find (especially younger girls again) will tell you they don't want to be the old them anymore, because the old them wasn't good enough. They want to be the new them. #

still not convinced? type "loat dreams ana" into ask.com and click on the link that says:
-=-*lostdreams*-=- Home

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fragile_esteem Wrote:That would be incorrect, because this is what, a lot of people that have ana think perfection is http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z256 ... ook/o1.jpg and they want to get their. In my mind that is perfectionistic. Also you will find most people (especially younger girls) with ana have varying degrees of OCD. You will also find (especially younger girls again) will tell you they don't want to be the old them anymore, because the old them wasn't good enough. They want to be the new them. #

still not convinced? type "loat dreams ana" into ask.com and click on the link that says:
-=-*lostdreams*-=- Home

Gratz. that has to be in my top 5 most disturbingi pictures i've ever viewed list.

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ive seen more distubring pictures.

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Oh no, plz don't mention disturbing pics on this site.

*bad memories*

I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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guy ran over by tank, guy who commited suicide with a band saw, la freeway suicide,eifle tower jumper, and man vs shotgun are all in my pictures

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therenagadeoffunk Wrote:guy ran over by tank, guy who commited suicide with a band saw, la freeway suicide,eifle tower jumper, and man vs shotgun are all in my pictures

word. o.O

anyway...

what do people on here think of pro anorexia?

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Quote:what do people on here think of pro anorexia?

What exactly does that mean? Trying to be anorexic on purpose?

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SoulRiser Wrote:
Quote:what do people on here think of pro anorexia?

What exactly does that mean? Trying to be anorexic on purpose?

no it is using it as a "lifestyle choice" pretenind it is healthy and not trying to recover.

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I think it's bad.

I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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Pro Anorexia is quite disturbing...There is no such thing as healthy starving the people who create these sites sicken Me and Need Help!

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Quote:no it is using it as a "lifestyle choice" pretenind it is healthy and not trying to recover.

Emphasis on "pretending". Sounds like a convenient excuse to not have to change. Change is scary, after all... but it's the only way to get out of a shitty situation.

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