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school or happiness
you know how parents and teachers say school is the most important thing ,well what about happiness.
if you're sad and depressed,you don't want to do anything,and think there's nothing left,and you're not happy, you could end up in a mental ward or commit suicide.so which should be more important to kids,school or happiness?
i would say happiness.
Telling people to do something without giving a reason compels them to rebel not to obey-Avenger
We need to learn not to be afraid of making mistakes all the time-Avenger
FACTS OF LIFE:
1.life sucks most of the time
2.sex is natural and it feels good
3.everybody can be an asshole
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They've been deluded into believing material success will lead to happiness.
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Quote:i would say happiness.
Thats what I chose. But people today have the warped perception there is some sort of set path to finding happiness that involves making alot of money and owning alot of crap that we don't need. And the people who tend to have that much money and material crap tend to be those with high paying jobs that demand alot of formal education. Therefore people come up with the idea that school = $ = happiness, which couldn't be further from the truth.
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Those are also the people who have virtually no free time and almost never see their families. Their children are in day care or school while they work 40+ hours per week so they can have their huge house, their Hummer, their HDTV, their XBox 360, etc. They have no family bond because they never see each other. Their children grow up deprived of any sense of family or continuity. Why do you think today's teens feel so distant from their families? It's because they were raised by strangers instead of their parents and came to see their parents only as a roof and a wallet.
The extended family was destroyed in the 19th century and the nuclear family will follow it in the 21st.
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OmegaWolf747 Wrote:Those are also the people who have virtually no free time and almost never see their families. Their children are in day care or school while they work 40+ hours per week so they can have their huge house, their Hummer, their HDTV, their XBox 360, etc. They have no family bond because they never see each other. Their children grow up deprived of any sense of family or continuity. Why do you think today's teens feel so distant from their families? It's because they were raised by strangers instead of their parents and came to see their parents only as a roof and a wallet.
The extended family was destroyed in the 19th century and the nuclear family will follow it in the 21st.
damn it you copied my avatar,if you want an anarchy symbol get one that looks different from my avatar.
i'm talking about while your going to school,which is more important happiness or school.
Telling people to do something without giving a reason compels them to rebel not to obey-Avenger
We need to learn not to be afraid of making mistakes all the time-Avenger
FACTS OF LIFE:
1.life sucks most of the time
2.sex is natural and it feels good
3.everybody can be an asshole
4.most people are idiots
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Quote:i'm talking about while your going to school,which is more important happiness or school.
Well.
It's a bit of an obvious answer around here
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happiness is whatever it is to you.
I dont mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am,so thats how it comes out.- bill hicks
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Define what "happiness" is please.
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i all ready told you
I dont mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am,so thats how it comes out.- bill hicks
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cooltoonist Wrote:Define what "happiness" is please.
whatever makes you happy,wether it be games,music,a boyfriend or girlfriend,friends,playing instruments,computers etc.
Telling people to do something without giving a reason compels them to rebel not to obey-Avenger
We need to learn not to be afraid of making mistakes all the time-Avenger
FACTS OF LIFE:
1.life sucks most of the time
2.sex is natural and it feels good
3.everybody can be an asshole
4.most people are idiots
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I often think about what you are saying. When I am sitting in class or in trouble, I think to myself, "What the fuck am I even doing here? I hate it here, I want to leave, I want to do as I please. Why the fuck should I care about education if I do not need it to be happy?"
There is the problem. Because the world has placed so much value on money. To get the things we want, we need money, to get that money we need a good job. To get that good job, we need a piece of bullshit paper from a good school. In order to get that, we need an, "education." Of course this education cannot be anything even remotely related to the lives most of us will someday lead.
That is how the world works. It is not the way it should work. Fuck that. I do not require huge amounts of money, 20 100,000 cars, a huge house and a warddrobe full of clothing.
I am happy with a Ford pickup, my computer, my ipod, my skinny levis and white t shirts.
Thats all I need in addition to a place to live.
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happy is not definable, and for me, finding peace is more important than finding happiness
i am me myself and i
we are very much the same
different types of entities
under one single name
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cryptevah72 Wrote:happy is not definable, and for me, finding peace is more important than finding happiness
Thank you...
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i am me myself and i
we are very much the same
different types of entities
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Flock <3
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You can't be truly happy until you're at peace with yourself
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OmegaWolf747 Wrote:No, I didn't. I found it in a Google Image search.
oh,but it's still the same!
Telling people to do something without giving a reason compels them to rebel not to obey-Avenger
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So wuts going on in this thread :D
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Happiness. People think I'm crazy for deciding to not go to college. I mean, I will have some education so I can become an effective cartoonist, but not college. The only money I need will be the cash I need to live comfortably. And the things I'll need to start off myself are a 12" TV, desk and bed I have now, free furniture from various relatives that don't need it, bicycle for transportation (viva Chicago!) among other things, such as things from a thrift store.
I don't need a lot of cash to be happy. As long as the things I have work the way they are, I don't need an HDTV (the video on those things are CRAPPY, in my opinion) the top-of-the-line game system, or fancy cars (though I will follow in my half-sister's footsteps and maybe buy an expensive, yet very fuel-efficient car if I need to get one)
I will tell you this, though. My U.S. History 1 teacher (who is awesome) tells us to save 10 percent of what we earn and not touch it for any reason. I'm supposing this is for retirement or a very rainy day. But it is good advice. When my contemporaries are struggling to make ends meet after retirement, I can just drink my glass of champagne and chuckle at them.
Then again, God loves to screw me over.
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The purpose of life is happiness so happiness is my vote screw the school.
Had to move on. Account is dead.
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Happiness of course.
School..........is.........the..........total.........opposite. It's SO far from happiness.
To me.
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