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Tape Recording. Is it legal?

I know this would come in handy.

When i was in 6th grade, a teacher caught me tape recording without her permission. I was told it was inappropriate, and distracting, and (my memory is kind of shaky here) that it was illegal. I asked why. I was told that tapes could be edited to alter speech. Now i can think of some interesting responses to that statement, but thats beside the point.

Is it really illegal to tape record teachers without their knowledge? Where would i find local information?

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no its not illegal , the government does it to you all the time, and the government runs the public schools, so why not record them? tell your teacher to take a course on law.

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I don't believe it is illegal.
Otherwise journalists would be fined for stalking celebrities with tape recorders.

Use a tape recorder when your teacher gets angry. When they swear, the tape is gold. Biggrin
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It depends on where you live. It is illegal in some places. Check the laws for your area. I suggest Google.

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It's not illegal. My teachers all highly recommend we buy tape recorders to get lectures or reviews for tests.
For college there's probably no point in getting a tape recorder because I hear most teachers are recording lectures, so college students are required to buy an iPod.

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College is a lot more liberal than high school. They allow you tape recorders. You're also allowed to bring your laptop into class. Because obviously finishing high school means you're finally responsible enough to do that Rolleyes
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Ah, my bad. I thought he was tape recording his teacher to catch her harassing students.

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Tape recording in ANY situation is NEVER illegal. It may be frowned upon but I don't think it's ever illegal.

Her argument that you could alter her speech on the recording is completely flawed. I don't even know how to argue against this, it's so ridiculous. And usually I'm good at arguing.

If by "edited" your teacher meant you could cut out words to make a different quote, like this:

"I hate people who abuse animals" into "I...abuse animals"

that'd be considered unlawful evidence and would never even be considered in any situation where this evidence would be proposed. So her argument makes no sense.

I'm guessing your teacher just got that natural paranoid feeling you get when people record what you're doing. I know I hate it when people record what I'm saying or if I'm walking through the halls and I know the security cameras are watching me.

Did your teacher ask you to turn off the recording? And why were you recording her anyways? To record notes and such, I'm guessing..


EDIT: I just remembered that it IS illegal to have a voice recorder, video recorder, or camera in a court of law as a citizen during a trial.

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The One, are you absolutely certain about that?

I have searched Google, and i am trying to obtain some sort of local area information, but it would be easier if i found a national law prohibiting the banning of recording devices.

It's been a while since 6th grade, and i'm in a different school system right now (though its essentially the package, in nicer rapping paper). If recording teachers without their consent is illegal, then quite frankly there is no way to prove a students word of a teachers, since the teacher would always receive the benefit of the doubt (after all, after you pass into adult hood, you become more responsible and stop lying). Wink

i don't need to know about tape recording in college, because i don't plan on attending one. They can only waste my life for so long.

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Tape Recording illegal? Sounds...unlikely.

But I dunno, depends on your area. If I had my MP3 player I'd be recording lessons all day (It HAD an integrated Mic.)
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One time one of my friends had a tape recorder in his pocket.
It was the tape recorder that got a shitload of teachers fired.
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BobManPerson Wrote:One time one of my friends had a tape recorder in his pocket.
It was the tape recorder that got a shitload of teachers fired.

Oooh, do tell.
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BobManPerson Wrote:One time one of my friends had a tape recorder in his pocket.
It was the tape recorder that got a shitload of teachers fired.

Oooh, do tell.

Wow. TELL!

And yes I am pretty sure that it would not be considered illegal to record a conversation without the other person's consent. It's generally good manners to tell the person you are recording the conversation but it's not illegal to forgo that part.

And why would it be illegal? The Constitution declares Free Speech, I think you have every right to record this "free speech" and play it back at any time. It's not like you are coercing her into saying something she doesn't want to say on tape.... Right?

And I'm not even going to search for any law concerning this because I've tried looking for specific laws and amendments before and its a pain in the ass.

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I wouldnt think so, they tape recorded me in school man, like WTF?

You tape record them.

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now to dig up that old thing... None

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I can't imagine that recording people would be illegal. And sure, you can easily edit the recordings if you put it on a computer, but editing them isn't illegal on its own. It depends what you do with it...

Quote:One time one of my friends had a tape recorder in his pocket.
It was the tape recorder that got a shitload of teachers fired.

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SoulRiser Wrote:I can't imagine that recording people would be illegal. And sure, you can easily edit the recordings if you put it on a computer, but editing them isn't illegal on its own. It depends what you do with it...

Quote:One time one of my friends had a tape recorder in his pocket.
It was the tape recorder that got a shitload of teachers fired.

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If they are aloud to record your every word, and movement on video, why shouldn't we be able to record things on tape?

It's not illegal, it's just a dumb rule and excuse for getting something done. Rolleyes

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Re: Tape Recording. Is it legal?

thats a good point. I remember being filmed for 'discipline' purposes once. They would point a camera in my general direction (they'd cluster all the 'trouble makers' together so they could get us all at once), and try and catch meh doing something wrong during class.

I believe strongly in finishing what i

one of the most interesting differences between school and prison, is that prior entering the second, you are read your rights. The less you know the better.

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Re: Tape Recording. Is it legal?

There were more posts on this thread that got lost... here they are:

Will Wrote:Why don't you call the teacher and ask what makes it illegal. You're not trying to be a "wise guy"; you really are curious about it about it.

It is quite unfortunate that our legal system is so messed-up that we need lawyers to tell us whether something is illegal.

Almosthere Wrote:will you have ressurected my dying thread!!!

i'm sorry maybe i wasn't specific when i said this, but it was years ago, three years ago. i haven't seen this specific teacher since i switched schools. I was just wondering if there was any truth to the statement.

ty for the advice though.

Will Wrote:That's why I said to call her. If you don't care enough, give me her name, and I'll contact her.

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I think as long as one person knows their being taped the other doesn't have to. Seen it on all the murder mysteries and detective shows.

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It's illegal to record a telephone conversation without all parties knowing.
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Speaking of which, did anyone see the news yesterday about that lady bugging her daughter's bookbag to find out what's said to her at school? Specifically, that she was being called stupid by the teacher.
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Nope.. sounds interesting though. Got a link?

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I think Fox News covered it. The basic jist is that the teacher was calling her kids stupid, and the daughter acted negatively due to this. The Mother was concerned because her daughter had been suspended from school, but the reasons were completely opposite her daughter's normal behavior. So she bugged her daughter's back-pack and was astonished to find out that the reason her daughter was being so negative was that the teacher was verbally abusing the students in her class. When the teacher was caught by the mother, the teacher was reassigned, and she claimed some medication was the cause.
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Bitch Teacher...

No it isn't illegal
What it is she afraid off...you tapped record secret government info...or you taped her talking dirty ?

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therenagadeoffunk Wrote:no its not illegal , the government does it to you all the time, and the government runs the public schools, so why not record them? tell your teacher to take a course on law.

Exactly.

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therenagadeoffunk Wrote:no its not illegal , the government does it to you all the time, and the government runs the public schools, so why not record them? tell your teacher to take a course on law.

Exactly.

WRONG.

Because school are public establishement with rules, since teachers think they have power, if you don't follow the rules like the obliterous zombie you are, you get punishment.
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Man this topic is good. Also to the topic, no it isn't. No matter where you are(unless it's not a free country) you're allowed by rights to tape record someone as long as you don't have the intention of editing AND bringing it to court. It has to be a mixture of the two. You can edit it. You can bring it to court. You just can't do both. Also to your teacher, I would like to Shooting and Rocket because she is such a moron

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