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As usual Rebelnerd comes in and puts it on the table.
Loxor Wrote:School shootings generally achieve the opposite of what I think they're protesting against. Oh hey, I don't like school for so and so reasons.
Well, now those just got a bunch worse because you scared the hell out of idiots.
Thing is these school shootings are not about protesting.
These people don't give a shit about standing up to preach some cause that people won't really care about and if they do its more out of self righteousness.
HeartofShadows Wrote:As usual Rebelnerd comes in and puts it on the table.
Loxor Wrote:School shootings generally achieve the opposite of what I think they're protesting against. Oh hey, I don't like school for so and so reasons.
Well, now those just got a bunch worse because you scared the hell out of idiots.
Thing is these school shootings are not about protesting.
These people don't give a shit about standing up to preach some cause that people won't really care about and if they do its more out of self righteousness.
All they want is revenge.
Obviously it's not a protest, I'm not sure kids are all that keen on martyrdom.
I didn't quite have another way to put it.
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I'm sittin' on the dock of the bay
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Rebelnerd Wrote:Columbine was a tragedy because innocent people died, just like all school shootings. I won't celebrate it and if I ever found evidence that it would happen again, I'd try to stop it. But there have been victims, both students and teachers alike, who deserved what they got. We'll do what we can to prevent the massacres that killed them but we don't feel sorry for them and we certainly won't mourn them. If you're going to offer the view of "the other side" like your signature says, you need to try and understand our side.
Well, I'm talking about having those Columbine shooters in an avatar and talking about killing teachers. That's like asking me to understand why I should stick needles in my eyes. I really like how you explain anarchism though.
If you want to be a different fish, you've got to jump out of the school.
TheCancer Wrote:Well, I'm talking about having those Columbine shooters in an avatar and talking about killing teachers. That's like asking me to understand why I should stick needles in my eyes. I really like how you explain anarchism though.
Usually kids who start these shootings just want revenge, like HeartofShadows wrote. They don't give a shit about "protesting the system"; they've just been fucked with for so long and happen to have easy access to guns that they broke down and shot anything moving in their way.
when you suffer for too long , you don't think about your actions when you break down , it really is school's fault about having this kind of system where kids all do the same shit. kids are scary these days , I'm actually afraid of people my age. you really don't know what they will do :>_>:
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poop123 Wrote:when you suffer for too long , you don't think about your actions when you break down , it really is school's fault about having this kind of system where kids all do the same shit. kids are scary these days , I'm actually afraid of people my age. you really don't know what they will do :>_>:
I'm not in the least bit. It's rare that this sort of shit happens, and being scared of people isn't going to solve anything. I usually talk to the kids who everyone accuses of being "future school shooters" and most of them are pretty cool, a bit quirky, but still not crazed killers...
You guys seem to have it all wrong with Harris and Klebold.
They weren't 'taking revenge' or 'protesting'.
No, they were batshit insane and there's mountains of evidence indicating that. They were completely and totally psychotic, and give video game enthusiasts, anti-schoolers and gun enthusiasts bad names.
Harris probably was a psychopath. But I think Klebold's case was a little different; he wasn't quite mentally ill, just angry. I think. Obviously there's no way to know for sure now that their brains are blotches of red goo.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
AWOL Wrote:No, I doubt he was a psychopath. If he was a psychopath he wouldn't have done a big, public shooting.
Well, I think the theory is that neither of them would have done it unless they'd met. Harris provided the focus and the discipline, and Klebold's anger at the world served as a kind of stimulant for both of them.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
AWOL Wrote:No, I doubt he was a psychopath. If he was a psychopath he wouldn't have done a big, public shooting.
Well, I think the theory is that neither of them would have done it unless they'd met. Harris provided the focus and the discipline, and Klebold's anger at the world served as a kind of stimulant for both of them.
Quite so, but a psychopath wouldn't do something public, they'd get revenge in a manner that would've allowed them to get away with it. I think you're searching for psychotic.
I meant whatever conditions causes lack of empathy. Sociopath, maybe.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
Sociopath is just an outdated term for psychopath. One of the traits of a psychopath is a lack of empathy, but it also carries with it the compulsion to manipulate the shit out of others to get what you want, rather than use brute force. They very rarely do anything direct, and nothing to that scale.
Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were heroes, they were slaves who decided enough was enough and finally took action. Even though they died, they were willing to fight for what they wanted.
I'm pretty sure if they weren't stuck in a public school with all the other assholes they wouldn't have done what they'd done.
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Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
Sociopath Wrote:Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were heroes, they were slaves who decided enough was enough and finally took action. Even though they died, they were willing to fight for what they wanted.
I'm pretty sure if they weren't stuck in a public school with all the other assholes they wouldn't have done what they'd done.
Yeah, I doubt they would of. That doesn't make them heroes though. What did they accomplish? All they did was kill a bunch of people. It didn't do anything but get cameras put in every school in the U.S.
Sociopath Wrote:Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were heroes, they were slaves who decided enough was enough and finally took action. Even though they died, they were willing to fight for what they wanted.
I'm pretty sure if they weren't stuck in a public school with all the other assholes they wouldn't have done what they'd done.
Yeah, I doubt they would of. That doesn't make them heroes though. What did they accomplish? All they did was kill a bunch of people. It didn't do anything but get cameras put in every school in the U.S.
I dont think thats what they had in mind, with the camera's. And they were trying to get rid of their oppressors, much like black plotting to kill their slave-master
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Hidden stuff:
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Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
#HashTagsAreForIdiots
Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
Sociopath Wrote:Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were heroes, they were slaves who decided enough was enough and finally took action. Even though they died, they were willing to fight for what they wanted.
I'm pretty sure if they weren't stuck in a public school with all the other assholes they wouldn't have done what they'd done.
Yeah, I doubt they would of. That doesn't make them heroes though. What did they accomplish? All they did was kill a bunch of people. It didn't do anything but get cameras put in every school in the U.S.
I dont think thats what they had in mind, with the camera's. And they were trying to get rid of their oppressors, much like black plotting to kill their slave-master
Hidden stuff:
INB4 HoS (for being black comparison) and Zhermabeotch (for mentioning "slave-master")
Even if you do consider school shootings to be a rebellion, all that does is make them war criminals instead of regular criminals. Purposefully killing civilians and all that.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
AWOL Wrote:Quick question, who are the three most famous school shooters!?
Done? Sweet.
Your answers were Harris, Klebold and Cho.
All three of them had a history of random crime and/or mental conditions.
These people were not 'warriors', they were crazy people.
Then they were crazy heroes then. Its happened before.
Hidden stuff:
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Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
#HashTagsAreForIdiots
Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
School shooting piss me off if you think someone is talking about you or makes a fucking joke you dont like guess what? You punch them in their fucking face if you think there gonna beat you up? Work out Win once for fucks sake. This kid Philip every day would get picked on EVERY fucking day finally something snapped. Every day we'd see him at the Y working out vigorusly and finally some idiot decides hey im gonna fuck with him. What happened Philip kicked the shit out of that kid and no one said anything about him ever again. People sense weakness and exploit it and they did the wrong thing those kids fucked the rest of us over with crazier school laws they shoudal taken the problem to its fucking source and not just shoot a bunch of innocents.
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