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School Shootings

Opinions on them.

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If they don't kill you quickly they're probably quite painful.

If you want to be a different fish, you've got to jump out of the school.


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They are fucked up and retarded. While the kids may of been tortured, bullied and put through hell, that's no reason to shoot up a bunch of innocent people. These types of shootings wouldn't fucking exist if school wasn't so fucked up, so ultimately it's the schools fault, but still.

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Absent is right

But if you complain that it is about kids privacy, think 9.11.2001

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It's strange that people are still surprised when they happen.

Locking up a bunch of people in a small space that oppresses basic human behaviour will result in at least one person lashing out.

It's sad to think some of the victims were bright and had a future, but I don't feel sympathy for bullies and teachers (oh wait they're the same thing lol) getting killed.
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flann Wrote:Absent is right

But if you complain that it is about kids privacy, think 9.11.2001
That was the day we got to just hang out in biology class because the teachers were too busy watching something on the news to tell us something to do.

But what does it have to do with this thread?

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You piss people off and eventually they bite back.
No surprise and I take the term that nobody is innocent.

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flann Wrote:Absent is right

But if you complain that it is about kids privacy, think 9.11.2001

What about 9/11? It was the biggest over reaction in military history.

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flann Wrote:Absent is right

But if you complain that it is about kids privacy, think 9.11.2001

What about 9/11? It was the biggest over reaction in military history.

Thank you.

Showed the world that the american people are stupid weak idiots.

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Quote: I don't feel sympathy for bullies and teachers (oh wait they're the same thing lol) getting killed.

If I die this way then you're not welcome at my funeral. Dead

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AWOL Wrote:
flann Wrote:Absent is right

But if you complain that it is about kids privacy, think 9.11.2001

What about 9/11? It was the biggest over reaction in military history.

Thank you.

Showed the world that the american people are stupid weak idiots.

Funny thing was, from what I heard the world felt so badly for us... until we went to war. Yaaaayyyy america.

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In my humble opinion the big string of school shootings (late 1990s to late 2000s) was a muddled and messy war with three sides: the shooters, the schools/police, and students who just wanted to survive. All three of them ended up with blood on their hands and I'm still trying to figure out who won.

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Rebelnerd Wrote:In my humble opinion the big string of school shootings (late 1990s to late 2000s) was a muddled and messy war with three sides: the shooters, the schools/police, and students who just wanted to survive. All three of them ended up with blood on their hands and I'm still trying to figure out who won.

Shit, it's not even over yet. School shootings are still happening.

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Yeah just the media got bored of doing stories on them in favor of something else.

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HeartofShadows Wrote:Yeah just the media got bored of doing stories on them in favor of something else.

We must have some way to terrify the people! CHARLIE SHEEN. Oh wait that only terrifies the smart people.

Anything that ever happened or will... one condition, it has to be amazing.

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HeartofShadows Wrote:Yeah just the media got bored of doing stories on them in favor of something else.

they just move on to the new fear, the new poandemic.

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Loxor Wrote:
HeartofShadows Wrote:Yeah just the media got bored of doing stories on them in favor of something else.

We must have some way to terrify the people! CHARLIE SHEEN. Oh wait that only terrifies the smart people.

No, he only terrifies the idiots. The smart people love him.

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Kids should focus more on killing the teachers.


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Linki Wrote:It's strange that people are still surprised when they happen.

Locking up a bunch of people in a small space that oppresses basic human behaviour will result in at least one person lashing out.
Agree

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HeartofShadows Wrote:You piss people off and eventually they bite back.
No surprise and I take the term that nobody is innocent.
I agree Yes

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AWOL Wrote:
Loxor Wrote:
HeartofShadows Wrote:Yeah just the media got bored of doing stories on them in favor of something else.

We must have some way to terrify the people! CHARLIE SHEEN. Oh wait that only terrifies the smart people.

No, he only terrifies the idiots. The smart people love him don't give a shit.

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Well, the number and frequency of shootings has gone down in recent years. There have been some attempts, some singer murders and violence, but nothing on the scale of Columbine of Virginia Tech. But I wouldn't be surprised if we get another wave somewhere down the road. Conditions haven't changed enough for the problem to go away.

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Prince Rilian Wrote:
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I give this post a thumbs down for not making any sense.

A regular poster celebrating Columbine is pretty intense, that's all.

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Columbine was a tragedy because innocent people died, just like all school shootings. I won't celebrate it and if I ever found evidence that it would happen again, I'd try to stop it. But there have been victims, both students and teachers alike, who deserved what they got. We'll do what we can to prevent the massacres that killed them but we don't feel sorry for them and we certainly won't mourn them. If you're going to offer the view of "the other side" like your signature says, you need to try and understand our side.

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Rebelnerd Wrote:If you're going to offer the view of "the other side" like your signature says, you need to try and understand our side.
Talking to me, might I ask?

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Rebelnerd Wrote:If you're going to offer the view of "the other side" like your signature says, you need to try and understand our side.
Talking to me, might I ask?

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School shootings generally achieve the opposite of what I think they're protesting against. Oh hey, I don't like school for so and so reasons.

Well, now those just got a bunch worse because you scared the hell out of idiots.

Anything that ever happened or will... one condition, it has to be amazing.

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Loxor Wrote:School shootings generally achieve the opposite of what I think they're protesting against. Oh hey, I don't like school for so and so reasons.

Well, now those just got a bunch worse because you scared the hell out of idiots.

You're goddamn right. I hear this type of shit everyday in school now "It's the quiet kids you have to be careful about", "TRALOLOL, THAT KIDS QUIET, I BET HE'S GOING TO COME KILL US ALL." and other retarded shit like that.

The shootings have fed the very thing they try to stop.

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