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Quote:Do I have permission to use some of these posters?

That was kind of the whole point of us posting them, I think Biggrin

Quote:I like putting the "in Hell" on its own line like you did, and I have some ideas for cleaning it up; give me the source.

The "source" is a 12MB Photoshop file. I can't send that anywhere on my connection, it would cost too much. I'll make those changes you suggested though. Maybe that'll leave enough space at the end for me to put the SS logo in as well. What I could send you though is larger versions of "hell" and "ice cream" with effects on, if you want?

Quote:Is there some important reason why you changed the font? If not, I'll probably want you to redo the ice cream effect on a different font once I'm done.

I just used the first font Photoshop had selected... didn't bother changing it. But I can redo that effect on any font.

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Shit. ><

I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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Not very good but...

Yeh...I did it in SS style - light text on dark background.

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.odt ... what program do I open that with?

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I don't really like it. First, the layout looks sloppy, but more importantly, I think any text that we put on the flyer has to be concise, elegant and very clear.
SoulRiser Wrote:.odt ... what program do I open that with?
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SoulRiser Wrote:.odt ... what program do I open that with?

I did warn you guys it was kinda crappy.

Yeh, Open Office.

http://suite-2008.com/index.asp?aff=007 ... QwodoRTsCw

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I started making a postcard design months ago... I tried working on it more, but everything I've tried somehow doesn't fit. Maybe there should be more images rather than just text, even if it's a sketch of an unhappy student at a desk or something.

Also, the back should have a design... but maybe that could be a couple of paragraphs of small text that describes what school survival is about, or some kind of inspirational quotes.

(There are places online that offer cheap printing of color glossy 4x6" cards... that's the medium I have in mind.)

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I think, from now on, whenever SS is advertised, this needs to either be summarized or printed out or something, as long as the message gets across.

I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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Yeah, I know it sucks. I can create a good concept for an image, but when it comes to me and photo editing.... you get the point.

I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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I have a collection of things some people have said about SS (mainly the forums). They'd make amusing flyers.

Quote:Welcome to SS, the greatest place on earth. The only place where you can sell your soul, proclaim to be god, debate about anything and everything, and do pretty much whatever you want. The only requirement is that you leave your sanity at the door. - Suicidal-kun

Quote:Welcome to the realm of the lost, the crazy, the idealists, the pessimists, the lovers, the fighters, the revolutionaries, the rebels, the non-conformists, the non-conformist non-conformists, the fools, the geniuses, the happy, the sad. I just like to think of SS as the gray. Not annoyingly white. Inexperienced, idealistic to the point of stupidity, and rule-following. Not evilly black. Not the sadistic, the psychopaths. But just enough black to make us the best to comment on whatever problems arise. We've seen both sides of the coin.
Anyways, welcome. We're here to support each other through the hellstorm called youth.
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Quote:I don't even hate my school anymore (besides a few annoyances) but this place is still worth coming to. Even in the little time that I posted here, it was obvious that in comparison with other forums, the people on here have a drastically higher maturity level.

It's strange, because in all honesty, I didn't expect to find much intelligence on a board that I discovered from googling the words "I hate school."
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I wish I was that quotable.

Ahh well, sometime life throws you a curve ball and it hits you in the face. Funny thing is, I've never played baseball.

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I like this one
SoulRiser Wrote:I didn't expect to find much intelligence on a board that I discovered from googling the words "I hate school."
I'll make something out of it soon.
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Here's something.

I think it's too much text.

How about a quote being in a speech bubble, with a sketched or vector cartoon of an unhappy student?

Some kind of stylized unhappy student image would help a lot. Contrasted with a happy one reading SS?

Anyone with drawing or vector illustration skills?
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xcriteria Wrote:Here's something.

I think it's too much text.

How about a quote being in a speech bubble, with a sketched or vector cartoon of an unhappy student?

Some kind of stylized unhappy student image would help a lot. Contrasted with a happy one reading SS?

Anyone with drawing or vector illustration skills?
I don't think the white text in the middle is necessary. Also, it'll be more interesting if you make it less symmetrical.
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Black backgrounds are gonna be a bit hard for most people to print, too.

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SoulRiser Wrote:Black backgrounds are gonna be a bit hard for most people to print, too.
Yeah I know... the idea is a postcard design; online places will print 1000 full color cards (double sided) for $50 or so. They are almost too slick for SS, but they are more permanent than a printout. Or they could be silkscreened on black paper. Smile

But a white-background design would be ideal for printing, definitely.

Will Wrote:I don't think the white text in the middle is necessary. Also, it'll be more interesting if you make it less symmetrical.
Yeah, some graphic in place of the text is what I'm thinking. If it was a 2-sided postcard, the SS intro or quotes or some such text could go on the back.
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We really need something like this whenever we advertise SS.

"We aren't anti-education. We are anti-school."

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Quote:We really need something like this whenever we advertise SS.

"We aren't anti-education. We are anti-school."

That's a good point.

Something like:
"Anti-school: NOT anti-education or anti-learning"

"We are" sounds a bit weird though.

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Shrug I dunno.
But that point needs to be made, and you all know why. (I hope.)

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SoulRiser Wrote:Black backgrounds are gonna be a bit hard for most people to print, too.
If we're hiring someone else to print them, black backgrounds won't be a problem. Do note that we only have light text and dark background on the website because such a color scheme is easier viewed on monitors; this benefit doesn't apply to paper.
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I think light-on-black is fine for a postcard... it's not like it's a whole essay. The reverse side could be dark-on-light if it has a bunch of text.

Here's a white version, though.

I think the idea of "anti-school, not anti-learning" could be stated in less of a disclaimer kind of way -- more positive instead just anti's. Besides, being anti-coercion and pro-student choice isn't necessarily "anti-school", even though it's a cool term. Like a few sentences, or maybe a collage of positive terms/concepts on one side and negatives on the other.

I added a version with horribly drawn cartoon characters. Need to be done better, but the idea is contrasting unhappy student and happy s.s. visitor.
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Highlight "intelligence", reduce the symmetry, and make it less wordy. Here's a very sloppy version to show the changes I suggest.[attachment=0]
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Another...
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Flyer design... found some clip art.
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Variation.
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Slight variation of above.
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I sort of like that idea too. It obviously needs to be more concise, and the layout could obviously be improved. The bottom picture should be something like really advanced math or biology.

I'll probably play around with some of these ideas, but I may not add images as I'm mainly into type.

Are you only planning on making postcards? And would you only hand them out as postcards, or would you also post them as small posters?

And how much cheaper would black and white be?
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I want to do all kinds of things.

The sleeping in class one is kind of meant to be a poster. The images should really be custom drawn for this... there's not much suitable clip art online.

Posters/flyers are easier for people to just print out, so a lot of versions can be made easily.

For postcards, black & white is only a couple percent less than full-color, if that. Two-sided isn't much more than single-sided, either. They are the best deal at 1000 copies or more, so it makes sense to refine something really well before ordering. gotprint.com is pretty cheap.
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I have an idea: can we make the anti- school T-shirts found here in poster form?
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Might want to check the date of the last post before you bump a two year old thread...

Aside from that, posters of those are probably a good idea.
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