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Blind obedience
I remember I once showed my sister a scanning of a kids notation of suspension. He was suspended cause the teacher didn't know that Firefox was a browser and didn't want the kid on it. My sister then said that its not ridiculous that he was suspended, cause students have to follow authority no matter what. I told her that rules have to have reasons and that its not a very good idea to follow authority, without considering whether or not it is necessary. She got mad.
I cant believe people are so willing to take orders like that.
Who are the brain police?
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Re: Blind obedience
Your sister is another victim of school brainwashing.
what a shame.
woah dude
dude woah
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Re: Blind obedience
Replace "sister" with "mother", and you've got a perfect description of my mom.
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Re: Blind obedience
Get her to read 1984 by Goerge Orwell. That will show her not to follow authority.
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Re: Blind obedience
Your sister is stupid.
Perhaps giving her the "Robin Hood" controversy might change her mind.
Morality + Rules don't fit.
It's best to be right rather than safe.
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Re: Blind obedience
cooltoonist Wrote:Your sister is stupid.
Perhaps giving her the "Robin Hood" controversy mind change her mind.
Morality + Rules don't fit.
It's best to be right rather than safe.
hey, robin hood, thats actually a very good way of putting it huh?
"People often compete to be considered right rather than collaborating to find the real answer."-Will.
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Re: Blind obedience
Ask her if she'd have killed Jews if Hitler told her to.
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Re: Blind obedience
Sad.
Is this an older or younger sister?
I believe strongly in finishing what i
one of the most interesting differences between school and prison, is that prior entering the second, you are read your rights. The less you know the better.
'Why is it that every time you open your mouth, you say something to annoy me?'
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Re: Blind obedience
After briefly thinking about it, I think teachers are less "brainwashed" than their students. As you grow older, a lot of the "brainwashing" wears off; the biggest exception being the belief in the need to attend school.
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Re: Blind obedience
Kirby Wrote:After briefly thinking about it, I think teachers are less "brainwashed" than their students. As you grow older, a lot of the "brainwashing" wears off; the biggest exception being the belief in the need to attend school.
And it seems most of the us got the "wearing off" process hasted. n_n
This website sped it up more.
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Re: Blind obedience
It wears off? Wait, that makes sense... sort of. That might explain the whole "mid-life crisis" phenomenon. That's when it wears off, and people suddenly realise how much of their life they've wasted. Possibly. But then there are old people who are still quite thoroughly brainwashed too... And even if they aren't, they've been conditioned to fear so many things that it's hard to unbrainwash themselves, even if they want to.
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