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Asder Miller
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Does money = success?
One kid in my class believes that so fervently. 
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Re: Does money = success?
No.
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Re: Does money = success?
No. Whoever says that is brainwashed.
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Re: Does money = success?
Money is something you exchange with other people in order to buy stuff.
Success is some totally subjective measurement of how well you've done at something.
So no, they're two totally different things.
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Re: Does money = success?
Happiness = Success
So if Money = Happiness For this kid then
Money = Success
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Re: Does money = success?
Money = Power
Power = Easier to achieve your goals
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Re: Does money = success?
Yes. You need money no matter what. Paying rent and stuff, food, clothes, and other things.
Everything is made easier by possessing huge amounts of cash. Everything. Whoever says money doesn't buy happiness either deludes themselves or is shit poor trying to rationalise things away.
Let go of all desire for the common good, and the good becomes common as grass.
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Re: Does money = success?
It's resources that you need. Money is just a tool used to make it easier to trade those resources, and it's a useful standard to use as measurement of their value. You'll need at least some resources to be successful, even if it's just to feed yourself. You don't necessarily need money, since there are other ways of getting resources, but it does makes trading resources a hell of a lot easier.
Some resources are more abstract, like your skills, knowledge, reputation, time, influence, etc. Oh, and your friends/family are also resources. Learn to use them.
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Re: Does money = success?
Some skills cost money to attain. Likewise with knowledge. You can get reputation by having shitloads of cash. You've got all the time in the world if you have money to back you. You can bribe anyone.
Q.E.D.
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Re: Does money = success?
That's as long as you're in an environment where you can convert money into resources. Which is most of the world.
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Re: Does money = success?
Negative Wrote:That's as long as you're in an environment where you can convert money into resources. Which is most of the world.
We're having this conversation over ones and zeroes carried on by wires and bits of metal. I can safely say we're in "most of the world."
Let go of all desire for the common good, and the good becomes common as grass.
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Good fortune follows upon disaster;
Disaster lurks within good fortune;
Who can say how things will end?
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Re: Does money = success?
Negative Wrote:Oh, and your friends/family are also resources. Learn to use them.
You raise a good point. If you're wealthy, you can buy a large circle of friends but as soon as you don't have that money anymore, their friendship will disappear. Unless they really do like you as a person, in which case you never "bought" them.
Go to work. Send your kids to school. Follow fashion. Act normal. Walk on the pavement. Watch TV. Save for your old age. Obey the law. Repeat after me: "I am free."
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Re: Does money = success?
Or you did and THEN they started to like you as a person
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Re: Does money = success?
Yeah, that too
Go to work. Send your kids to school. Follow fashion. Act normal. Walk on the pavement. Watch TV. Save for your old age. Obey the law. Repeat after me: "I am free."
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Re: Does money = success?
Well money is something you can be succeed at obtaining, but all ways usually spiritually degrading.
But money is not the definition of success. Even though it is worshipped.
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Re: Does money = success?
Faby Wrote:Yes. You need money no matter what. Paying rent and stuff, food, clothes, and other things. Everything is made easier by possessing huge amounts of cash. Everything. Whoever says money doesn't buy happiness either deludes themselves or is shit poor trying to rationalise things away.
I disagree wholeheartedly.
"Many people would like to be able to ignore money and help their fellow man, but find themselves forced to justify their existence in narrow financial terms - to 'get by' - often greatly limiting their cooperative behaviour. Rather than pay attention to maximising the potential of real resources, such as land, food, houses, hard disks etc, people are forced to pay attention to the imaginary resource that is money.
In the end, our money is worthless and is backed up by nothing more than a promise and our belief in that promise."
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Re: Does money = success?
Money is debt. The more money you have the more debt you have. All money is owed by someone to someone so in that sense no.
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Re: Does money = success?
Yes it does. But success does not equal real happiness. I find it sad that so many people today think that. When these people die and finally cash out, they don't look back and say "I wish I could be richer".
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Re: Does money = success?
Depends on how you look at it... some people in my family think just being happy and having a wife and kids is success... not money itself... also these days the dollar is worth shit as it is just a piece of fabric made by a government that is trillions in debt.... so what could it really be worth?
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Re: Does money = success?
Unfortunately school brainwashes you to think this, because if you go to school you get more money. But the more school you go to, the more money they get. But no, success can just be achieving your goals. Mine is to finish the two games me and three friends are working on. One's public and open for suggestions/questions. But the other one is under wraps. Very hush hush. 
"Ask them no more questions, never hear them lying"
People say the problem with me is I have psychotic tendencies and care not about other human beings I don't like and or know. So?
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If I had a lot of money, I'd be pretty damn fucking happy.
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Re: Does money = success?
Directly, money doesn't equal happiness. However, in today's world the more money you have, most of the time it makes doing what you enjoy easier to do, or start doing, etc.
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Re: Does money = success?
I feel sorry for rich people who have all the money in the world and still think they need more. Materialism is a religion.
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Re: Does money = success?
[quote="gore goroth"Materialism is a religion.[/quote]
More like a curse.
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yea the person who said money doesnt buy happiness was obviously poor. They all say oh yea its sucks being rich blah blah blah gimme an unlimited amount of money i could have a shit ton of fun with it for the rest of my life.
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Re: Does money = success?
I'ma play devil's advocate here and side with Comrade. Be honest here, anyone who's reading this, would you not be substantially happier if you got, say, $500?
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Success = Fucking Easy.
Happiness = A temporary feeling. = Money? Sure.
Contentment is impossible. At least I think it is.
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Complete contentment? Well yeah. Contentment? Not really, at least to me. After airsofting for seven hours, taking a shower after returning home, and sitting down with the computer while having a hot meal, I feel pretty damn content.
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