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ok, so i was recently informed, that according to jewish law:
it is not bad to be gay
it is however punishable by death if you act on it and have sex with another man
it is not bad if you are lesbo
there are no punishments for doing anything really with another female cuz your not losing your virginity
i also just had a discussion with my mom, where she said that if her son came out of the closet (hypothetically of course, because our house is full of girls) she would be uncomfortable. then i asked her (realistically) how she'd feel if i said i was lesbo, and she said she'd have no problem if i was, cuz it wasnt technically wrong.....
i dont get it.....
i am me myself and i
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That is the stupidest excuse ever. "It's bad just because my religion says so." - just think for yourself!
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youvebeenthunderstruck Wrote:That is the stupidest excuse ever. "It's bad just because my religion says so." - just think for yourself!
This.
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Re: rabbis for lesbos
That's pretty retarded even by the standards of people who say things like "being gay is immoral". Sexist too. "Oh, that's wrong, but this isn't, just because of this tiny little technicality". It totally ignores whatever the person's intentions were when they did whatever they did. Not that I think being gay is wrong either.
So... is it all about losing your virginity then? Would it be OK for a guy to have sex with a guy as long as he's had sex with a female before? 
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heh, idk, but the whole things just screwed up....like the rest of the world.....
i am me myself and i
we are very much the same
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Way to shrug it off. ><
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it shouldnt make a difference what religion says, and i dont understand your mom cryptevah
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Uhhhh.....what? That is ridiculous! And it makes no sense whatsoever! Religions have such weird customs, and people who follow these customs so closely really need to think.
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it is instilled in children so they follow without thinking
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Suicidal-kun Wrote:Uhhhh.....what? That is ridiculous! And it makes no sense whatsoever! Religions have such weird customs, and people who follow these customs so closely really need to think.
I personally like thinking, it keeps me sane. Just because I follow religious custom doesn't mean I don't think, or don't even think about why I do the customs. There's been many times I have question this or that in my religion and I almost always can convince myself it is right. I mean wouldn't an all powerful being of infinite power and knowledge know what's best? Seriously.
Now on topic: That is pretty weird, I always thought the laws of morality should apply to everyone equally.
Meh. I'm not Jewish so it doesn't matter. But I do wonder what would happen if a guy got a sex change and had sex with another guy, would that count as being gay?
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That is a question that has been pondered by humanity for many years, and will probably never be answered.
And Wes, how do you know god gave this bible? Also, read the beginning Deuteronomy 13.
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0513.htm
See what I am saying?
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So you shouldn't take away or add to the words God has said.
So? What does that have to do with anything? All this Chapter is about is how if someone is a prophet of other Gods, even if he produces miracles, you shouldn't follow him. And if someone tries to stray you away you should kill them.
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I am saying that reminds me of Jesus. The old testament was around before him. When we learnt this, in history, we were learning about the rise of Christianity, and this comparison popped into my head. Not trying to make you go against your faith or anything, but I was wondering how Christians responded to this myself.
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Weswammy Wrote:So you shouldn't take away or add to the words God has said.
you know what i reaalized, that means all the commentaries on the old testament are wrong right? there adding to the words of god if im not mistaken
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colbert2012 Wrote:Weswammy Wrote:So you shouldn't take away or add to the words God has said.
you know what i reaalized, that means all the commentaries on the old testament are wrong right? there adding to the words of god if im not mistaken
Wrong. It means don't add or subtract from the commandments, not expounding upon their meaning.
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but commentators do that, they decide how to follow the laws, which is like the same thing as writing them yourself.
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Look up the difference between the oral and written torah, then get back to me. I don't like you that much, so I won't explain it to you.
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i know the difference im jewish and i go to a jewish day school, i learn gemara and tanach
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darthmat Wrote:And Wes, how do you know god gave this bible?
Exactly. Holy books are not the word of god, they're written by men claiming to be writing the word of god.
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Colbert: Which school? I go to Kushner.
You?
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darthmat Wrote:I am saying that reminds me of Jesus. The old testament was around before him. When we learnt this, in history, we were learning about the rise of Christianity, and this comparison popped into my head. Not trying to make you go against your faith or anything, but I was wondering how Christians responded to this myself.
It says to lead the people away from the God of Abraham and to other gods.
As far as I know Jesus never said he wanted you to go and believe in other gods and leave the true God behind.
I wonder how Jewish people who try to use that to discredit Christianity respond to that.
On an unrelated note: Sometimes I feel the need to consider myself Jewish because Jesus wasn't "Christian". He was very Jewish and all he really did was reaffirm the old teachings in my view. I believe he fulfilled the prophecy.
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Quote:As far as I know Jesus never said he wanted you to go and believe in other gods and leave the true God behind.
He, or rather his followers, also made it son not all laws were mandatory E.G. sacrifices and Kosher.
So really, he never lead people away, but his followers did.
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God only commanded the Jewish people to be Kosher and Jesus's sacrifice made the need to sacrifice animals null.
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That belief arose 300 years later with Paul; and up until that point, there were next to no differences between Judaism and Christianity.
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Unlike the Twelve Apostles, there is no indication that Paul ever met Jesus prior to the latter's crucifixion.
- Wikipedia (Paul the Apostle)
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 You believe what you believe, and as long as you don't start stoning gay people, I'm cool.
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I guess I'll have to stop drugging the water supply of all the gay people in Denmark...
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