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youvebeenthunderstruck
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Critical Thinking
is not actually critical thinking.
Give me a break. The messsage in and of itself is fine enough, but you can't teach things like that in SCHOOL, unless you're willing to make the extra effort. Kids never learn when you teach "critical thinking" because the majority of them have already been so dragged through the system, they don't care any more, and the people who do think about it still think school should be mandatory for idiotic reasons.
That, and it's hypocritical. Yeah, you want to teach me about that? Why don't I "critical think" then and persue what I want?
<lordpie> Life sucks so much right now. It seems I'm spending all of it doing math.
<Rosti_LFC> You are "Math Boy"
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I was awful in critical thinking. In order to pass the class this is what you had to do. There are 2 tests. One at the beginning of critical thinking, one at the end. If you get a better score on the one at the end than you automatically pass the class. So I purposely failed the first one and tried on the second one. And I thought it was pretty hard too, I didn't learn one thing from it, yet passed.
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now thats using the old noggin. i love critical thinking, i think its really cool
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Re: Critical Thinking
Yes, critical thinking, obviously, but I mean in school, them teaching it is a slap in the face.
<lordpie> Life sucks so much right now. It seems I'm spending all of it doing math.
<Rosti_LFC> You are "Math Boy"
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What do you guys mean by "critical thinking?"
My schools always use the term, but I never really understood what it meant.
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Critical thinking aka "questioning everything"
<lordpie> Life sucks so much right now. It seems I'm spending all of it doing math.
<Rosti_LFC> You are "Math Boy"
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Re: Critical Thinking
I love it.
Teacher: You must think critically.
Student: Why?
Teacher: Because I said so now shut up!
I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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Re: Critical Thinking
Quote:Teacher: You must think critically.
Student: Why?
Teacher: Because I said so now shut up!
THAT. Is almost exactly what happened in my school.
They kept encouraging us to ask "why?" about absolutely everything... so we asked "why?" every time they told us to do something without giving us a reason. Apparently, that was not what they had in mind.
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That's what I'm talking about. Critical thinking is good, but teaching it in school is useless.
<lordpie> Life sucks so much right now. It seems I'm spending all of it doing math.
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Yeah, except maybe if they actually took the questions seriously themselves and realized school should be optional. That'd be cool. But nooo, anyone attempting that would get in trouble for disrupting class or something.
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Critical thinking is being critical about your thinking, to look out for fallacies and your own biases.
Who are the brain police?
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Gnomestone Wrote:I was awful in critical thinking. In order to pass the class this is what you had to do. There are 2 tests. One at the beginning of critical thinking, one at the end. If you get a better score on the one at the end than you automatically pass the class. So I purposely failed the first one and tried on the second one. And I thought it was pretty hard too, I didn't learn one thing from it, yet passed.
That's the stupidest system I've ever heard of. So if I got 95% on the first one, and 90% one the second one I'd fail? If I got 10% on the first one, and 25% on the second, I'd pass?
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Zombie Wrote:Critical thinking is being critical about your thinking, to look out for fallacies and your own biases.
And do we not learn that by first practising on others?
If I seem rude to you, please call me on it gently.
One thing (among many others) school couldn't teach you.
((Google Asperger's Syndrome))
stupid article
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What they teach in school isn't even real critical thinking. Its learning to think in the way that they want you to. Real critical thinking gets you suspended, especially when you act on it. I know that from personal experience
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Ayliana Wrote:What they teach in school isn't even real critical thinking. Its learning to think in the way that they want you to. Real critical thinking gets you suspended, especially when you act on it. I know that from personal experience
That is my point.
<lordpie> Life sucks so much right now. It seems I'm spending all of it doing math.
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Is this one of those weird subjects taught in american schools?
Me no like thinking. Me like following big man with big FIRE.
uhm,sarcasm intended
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I especially loved all the critical thinking I was suppose to do in English class, where I would question books/essays, but apparently the "wrong" way because the teacher I mean author wasn't thinking about it like that but rather this.
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