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**SoulRiser** · 03-27-2008 02:00 PM

If you're really considering suicide like right now, take 5 minutes and just go read this first. Please.

And then this: Suggestions If You're Feeling Suicidal

... and then this: Is Depression a Healthy reaction to a Sick Society?

and if you think you might be ready to try to make things better, read this: Life Sucks, Then You Die

If none of that helped, you should call someone, like someone you know IRL who cares about you, or if you don't believe anyone cares about you, then call a suicide hotline or psychologist.

Or go here:
SuicideForum.com - Post here for support. Almost everyone on this forum is or has been suicidal at some point, so they are more likely to understand than we are.

Also check the other stuff in this post... maybe something else in here might be helpful...

Quote:Teenagers around the world are killing themselves to put an end to their intense emotional pain. - S. Hein

It hurts when no one listens

It hurts when no one understands

It hurts when no one cares

It hurts when no one believes you

It hurts when no one believes in you

It hurts when no one trusts you

It hurts when no one helps you

It hurts more when its your parents.

S. Hein

From this page. EQI.org is also a good site with a lot of helpful reading material that may help you understand your feelings better. You can also contact them if you really need someone intelligent to talk to.

Topics:

Man's Search for Meaning
Every person has a role to play in life that only they can do, nobody can replace them in that role.

Want a permanent solution to temporary problems?
Don't commit suicide. Drop out of society. Become a dumpster diver and live off welfare, but don't commit suicide.

Fuck this system. People have been mentally scarred, told they have limits in life beyond natural law. Well, fuck limits. If you want to do something, do it because you want to do it, not because you want to make money, and if you dont want to work, you dont have to. Just drop out.

the anti-suicide guide
Lots of ideas.

Pages on this site (also containing links to other sites):
Dealing with Depression and Thoughts of Suicide
(more questions & answers)

Other helpful sites:
EQI.org - intelligent advice

i-am-the-liquor · 06-08-2008 06:56 PM

THIS DOES NOTHING!

random_name · 06-08-2008 07:18 PM

it helped me.

Sanjuro · 06-21-2008 06:51 AM

And me
I almost hung my self after a screw up of a mission at aginst school we were all arrested my best friend broke his leg thinking it was the end. I thougt it was my fualt and went to a monastary to ask for help and here i am today.

dreamer... · 06-21-2008 06:43 PM

If you're considering suicide, think of your loved ones...parents, siblings, friends, and others. It's hard to think about others when you're in such awful pain, but remember that if you kill yourself, you are only helping to perpetuate the cycle of pain, not to end it. Loved ones will suffer as you are suffering now. Think of them...
this is the hell your loved ones will endure if you commit suicide:
http://www.suicidegrief.com/

Sanjuro · 07-02-2008 12:00 PM

yea he has a great point
yu can't take it with you...

liq3 · 07-02-2008 02:01 PM

dreamer... Wrote:If you're considering suicide, think of your loved ones...parents, siblings, friends, and others. It's hard to think about others when you're in such awful pain, but remember that if you kill yourself, you are only helping to perpetuate the cycle of pain, not to end it. Loved ones will suffer as you are suffering now. Think of them...
this is the hell your loved ones will endure if you commit suicide:
http://www.suicidegrief.com/

Wow...Nice work. Play the guilt card. I'm someone who gets beaten by their mum and sexually abused by their dad would just LOVE to hear that.

dreamer... · 07-02-2008 02:13 PM

I said loved ones. Parents were only one possible example.... Loved ones can mean friends, mentors, aunts and uncles, anyone with whom you have a mutually caring relationship. And about "playing the guilt card"- is it bad to discourage people from a certain action on the grounds that it harms others? If putting someone on a guilt trip will save her life, why the hell not?

liq3 · 07-02-2008 03:15 PM

dreamer... Wrote:I said loved ones. Parents were only one possible example.... Loved ones can mean friends, mentors, aunts and uncles, anyone with whom you have a mutually caring relationship.

Oh ok...>.> What if they have no loved ones? Razz

Quote: And about "playing the guilt card"- is it bad to discourage people from a certain action on the grounds that it harms others? If putting someone on a guilt trip will save her life, why the hell not?

Well, I say it's more complicated then that. If you're only option to save them is a guilt trip, is their life really worth saving?

**SoulRiser** · 07-03-2008 12:44 AM

That's the thing when you don't know someone very well... often the only reason you can give them is the guilt trip thing unless you know them well enough to know what other reasons there may be for them staying alive...

The Desert Fox · 07-16-2008 01:44 AM

I tend to flip out more than geting calm. But I'm working on that... Flipping out like this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=2ne_KwVeIco
Except without the bloody violence. I flip out like that, but not with the bloody violence.

Related stuff: I tried suicide, but faled. Now that I look back, I'm glad I did. Of couse, I'm not in school. But try to punch a punching bag or pillow or something, or run around like an idiot, or take deep breaths,or clench your fists. I find drawing violent comics as a good way to get my stress out, as they make me laugh.

i-am-the-liquor · 08-08-2008 05:00 AM

i find burning myself with cigarettes helps some days. and this still does nothing

the forgotten · 08-08-2008 11:14 AM

liq3 Wrote:
dreamer... Wrote:I said loved ones. Parents were only one possible example.... Loved ones can mean friends, mentors, aunts and uncles, anyone with whom you have a mutually caring relationship.
Oh ok...>.> What if they have no loved ones?

Quote: And about "playing the guilt card"- is it bad to discourage people from a certain action on the grounds that it harms others? If putting someone on a guilt trip will save her life, why the hell not?
Well, I say it's more complicated then that. If you're only option to save them is a guilt trip, is their life really worth saving?

On your first statement, everyone is loved by someone, no matter who.
On your second comment, every life is worth saving, if someone has already lost their mentally life only then are they truely dead, so long as I think or am thought if in some positive way, I live.

dreamer... · 08-14-2008 06:36 AM

This might sound like silly advice, but if you're feeling suicidal...try to sleep. It's easy to think irrationally and let your emotions get the better of you when you're tired. Plus, sleep distances you from whatever painful things happened that day. You will probably wake up feeling better.

Michio-kun · 08-14-2008 07:10 AM

dreamer... Wrote:This might sound like silly advice, but if you're feeling suicidal...try to sleep. It's easy to think irrationally and let your emotions get the better of you when you're tired. Plus, sleep distances you from whatever painful things happened that day. You will probably wake up feeling better.

Oh yes, I can relate to this.

I definitely recommend letting your emotions sink in a little while as you try to understand them and you'll be amazed what a good night's sleep can do.

mudkip liek · 09-02-2008 11:15 AM

Quote:On your first statement, everyone is loved by someone, no matter who.

Actually, you don't know that because you haven't met everyone on this planet to know.

There are ALWAYS exceptions.

the forgotten · 09-13-2008 09:51 PM

Well, I love everybody, so I guess that everybody is loved by me and people like me, I even love people at school who make fun of me every day, and I tel them too, it makes them mad, so it's kind of a karma for me loving them, it pisses them off, because I say it genuinely.

**SoulRiser** · 09-14-2008 01:06 AM

Quote:I even love people at school who make fun of me every day

Respect + 20
How do you manage that?

the forgotten · 09-15-2008 01:36 AM

SoulRiser Wrote:
Quote:I even love people at school who make fun of me every day
Respect + 20
How do you manage that?

because, when they insult me, I remind them that I love them and jesus loves them, and I see the hatred flare in their eyes, it may be a self gratifying love, that's mildly perverse, but it's love.

Captain_Katiakicz · 09-21-2008 05:59 AM

the forgotten Wrote:
SoulRiser Wrote:
Quote:I even love people at school who make fun of me every day
Respect + 20
How do you manage that?
because, when they insult me, I remind them that I love them and jesus loves them, and I see the hatred flare in their eyes, it may be a self gratifying love, that's mildly perverse, but it's love.

What about the people who don't love jesus and make fun of his religion frequently, do you still love them?

the forgotten · 09-21-2008 06:23 AM

I'm a deist, I insult christianity constantly, people just take that seriously usually.

Captain_Katiakicz · 09-21-2008 06:27 AM

<---- gullible

just sometimes.

red-jericho · 09-30-2008 12:48 AM

This Thread is seriously Getting to me, I'm kind of one of those people who knows people love them, but it doesnt make a difference to my actions (self harm. etc).

i also had an incident with my boyfriend, where he found me, hhurting myself, and he explained that he loved me and i had no reason to do this. I tried to explain to him, that i know people love me, and i love them...but, it just doesnt effect me...I've been called selfish before...but i honestly dont think thats it. And so many people before him have tried to help me. Have i just grown immune to help? if so, im in trouble.

**SoulRiser** · 09-30-2008 03:54 AM

That's because happiness needs to come from inside you and not from external sources (like other people). If it doesn't come from inside you, it isn't really genuine, or at least isn't reliable. That's why the "help" from other people doesn't really work. It's not just you. Sadhug

You have to find a reason to live for yourself, not for other people's sakes. Most importantly, you need to love yourself. (I know you can't just magically flip a switch and make that happen, I'm just saying that's why this is a problem).

dreamer... · 09-30-2008 08:55 AM

To be honest, I've heard that "happiness comes from inside" stuff many times, and I don't believe it. If I were stuck in an empty room all by myself, I would feel pretty crappy. All the dreams I supposedly live for have something to do with the external world....Not that I can argue with the high and mighty SoulRiser.

red-jericho, try and figure out why you harm yourself. What thoughts and feelings lead you to do that? There has to be some reason why. If you won't stop because of your boyfriend's love, then maybe your self harm has nothing to do with feeling unloved? Perhaps love has nothing to do with it at all. Or, on the other hand, maybe love has everything to do with it. Is it possible you subconsciously associate hurting yourself with others comforting you and saying they love you? Think carefully about what motivates you to self harm.

And I hope you feel better. Hug

Sanjuro · 10-08-2008 02:39 PM

If u kill ur self ur emo...

**SoulRiser** · 10-09-2008 12:33 AM

That wasn't really funny. None

Gobinu · 11-18-2008 06:24 AM

List of emo's:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicides
Who would have thought...

Sick Silent · 01-03-2009 09:35 AM

Just remember: If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off.
Laugh

demonater10 · 01-04-2009 01:15 AM

I suck cock..

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