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Im trying to convince my parents to homeschool me. like the kind where you do weekly meets or online courses. but my parents just think im complaining and are not even considering my porposal sereously.

my dad just says that if im home schooled I will "not learn social struture" and "school just teaches you to deal with things" and that im learning to work in an organized system. When i say i want to furfer my education he just rebuts that with the same argument.

can you guys help make my parents take me seriously and come up with somthing for a good argument. I just dont think its possible to keep going through school.

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03-30-2008 01:25 PM
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Read these:
http://www.school-survival.net/answers/ ... lArguments
http://www.school-survival.net/answers/ ... cialSkills

Also, you might have to just start unschooling yourself to prove to your parents that you're really serious.

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--monkey666-- Wrote:Im trying to convince my parents to homeschool me. like the kind where you do weekly meets or online courses. but my parents just think im complaining and are not even considering my porposal sereously.

How did you put your proposal forward? Did it sound like you were whining? At any rate, it has every right to be taken seriously.

Quote:my dad just says that if im home schooled I will "not learn social struture" and "school just teaches you to deal with things"

Bull-effin-shit it does. If it did, then why would you be asking for homeschooling in the first place?

Quote:and that im learning to work in an organized system. When i say i want to furfer my education he just rebuts that with the same argument.

Since your education is hardly being furthered in that great "organized system", I'd still attempt to convince your parents that homeschooling may very well be the best solution for you.

can you guys help make my parents take me seriously and come up with somthing for a good argument. I just dont think its possible to keep going through school.[/quote]

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Sounds like your dad's mind is made up. What meaningful arguments can you come up with that will reach him at HIS level? Why should HE consider your proposal since everybody he knows has kids who go to school?

Your parents both might see your proposal as something that will further inconvenience them. HOME + SCHOOL might sound like a formula for WORK. Do you have some kind of plan for getting this home school proposal to give you a meaningful education? Can it do BETTER than traditional school?

You say "I just dont think its possible to keep going through school" but plenty of kids say that. What is it that makes your situation so different than others, and why should your parents take your whine seriously?
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akdonn Wrote:....whine.....

Jesus Christ, it is not a whine. He is obviously having problems at school that are real. Go to hell.

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akdonn thats bullshit.

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What if you get a part-time job to learn social structure and how to deal with things, and then learn outside of school?

akdonn has a point that they may just see your proposal as something that could inconvenience them... My mom gave me the same kind of "social structure" arguments when I first started asking about quitting school. I think a lot of it was also that my parents thought it would be a time investment on their part, and/or cost them a lot of money.

Plus a lot of people just never thought of questioning school. I suggest continuing to talk about the issue, find out their reasoning, suggest alternative ways, explain your problems with school, advantages of another approach, and especially how your plan will help you lead to at least as good an outcome in a few years than school.

Maybe pursue some learning outside of school and show them what you can accomplish on your own?
04-23-2008 09:14 AM
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well your dad is half right like you do leanr to sociolize with others and stuff in school,but if you think about it sometimes being in social gathern of your classmates in not as fun as some people thing like you have racism ullying and stuff in it.Try talking intelligent to your parents because it sounds like they are taking you as a kindergarden kid so try writing them a letter if they wont listen to you speak about how you are concerned about your education and make it sound like the whole class thing makes you not get enough study as you want to or the school brings bad study influence on you hope it works.

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