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Double · 04-16-2008 05:03 AM

Hm.. Lowering or completely removing the AoC would maybe be something good. A person should have enough self discipline not to force themselves on a minor, and also if that's the only way they can "get laid", then they shouldn't at all.

Basically, if you tell a person "No, u can't has", the next thing he will do is go and take it, either to test if there will be a consequence, or to defy the authority that has brought the law over him.

Just to prove that I am 100% right:

i-am-the-liquor · 04-24-2008 11:49 PM

the american govt will never lower it as long as there are conservative christian's in the whitehouse......grrrr shitty keyboard!

HeartofShadows · 04-25-2008 02:59 AM

Right.. Age of consent laws aren't going to stop the ones they wanna stop. The one's who break it will break it anyway.

AWOL · 04-26-2008 08:05 PM

As a wise man once said ' A law that is there to be broken, shall be broken'

starfish · 06-11-2008 02:03 PM

Has anyone ever come upon any good articles or writing about why people are attracted to young people/children? Because the pedophile has become this faceless media monster that just HAS this unstoppable urge to rape your children. I would love to understand the phsyche behind pedophiles. Is it that a lot of them have very low IQs themselves, and thus are unable to analyze their own feelings and actions, or curb any of their urges? Have they chronicaly been forced to take the submisive role in thoughout life, and by using a child they are for once without a doubt dominant? And what about this trend of the sexualy abused later becoming sexual abusers? If you are raped as a child, wouldn't your association to sex be pain, and thus you would have an adversion to it, as well as enough empathy not to want to inflict that pain on others? What does the pedophile feel. Why does he want what he wants.

Doc Johnson · 06-12-2008 03:16 PM

My understanding of it is that a lot of pedos were molested themselves.

I'm sure there are other things about it to. Media do have a tendency to sexualize kids, particularly females, in order to sell things.

Some people are just evil. They just are. They will do it because they get off on exercising their power over anyone who cannot fight back. That sucks, but it is as it is.

As far as AoC, I remember wanting to get laid as early as 9, but never quite managed it until 15. But my folks gave me sex ed at an early age (12), so I had a good idea as to how to no get someone preggers. I also was with someone my age, but we both were below AoC.

As far as I'm concerned, the issue is "consent." That requires (1) knowledge (2) freewill and (3) lack of coercion and other pressure. If someone knows what they are about to do, and wants to do so, and nobody is forcing (or even pressuring them) into it, then they are "old enough" to consent. The laws exist primarily for the third reason, though also, historically, to control the sexual freedom of unwed females, usually to the advantage of her parents. For the folks on this site, I think that reasons one and two are the most important considerations. For that reason, I think it would be interesting to make the fundamentalists go back to fundamentals: Adulthood starts at 14. This is the Hebrewic (sp.?) tradition, as I understand it. But why, then, stop with AoC? How about things like voting, schooling, and other rights?

Michio-kun · 06-12-2008 09:53 PM

There are 20...30 year olds that are not "mature" (whatever that means) enough to understand sex much less hold a healthy relationship with another human being.

i-am-the-liquor · 06-13-2008 02:43 AM

aoc back home used to be 14, now its 16.. i blame harper

starfish · 06-13-2008 04:12 AM

Doc Johnson Wrote:My understanding of it is that a lot of pedos were molested themselves.

I'm sure there are other things about it to. Media do have a tendency to sexualize kids, particularly females, in order to sell things.

Some people are just evil. They just are. They will do it because they get off on exercising their power over anyone who cannot fight back. That sucks, but it is as it is.

I don't agree

TheDelinquent · 06-13-2008 07:14 AM

I don't believe there is a set age at which a person becomes eligible to consent. Or, if there is, I think it's in the triple digit range.

It would make much more sense to just outlaw all coercive relationship in the first place. It shouldn't matter how old the participants are, at all.

Doc Johnson · 06-13-2008 08:47 AM

starfish Wrote:
Doc Johnson Wrote:My understanding of it is that a lot of pedos were molested themselves.

I'm sure there are other things about it to. Media do have a tendency to sexualize kids, particularly females, in order to sell things.

Some people are just evil. They just are. They will do it because they get off on exercising their power over anyone who cannot fight back. That sucks, but it is as it is.

I don't agree

Okies. What don't you agree with, and what is your counter-argument?

Darthmat · 06-13-2008 11:31 AM

Doc Johnson Wrote:Adulthood starts at 14. This is the Hebrewic (sp.?) tradition, as I understand it.

Not sure what 'sp.?' is, but that's wrong. In Judaism, adulthood, for women, starts at 12, and for men, at 13.

i-am-the-liquor · 06-13-2008 02:03 PM

if you can get it up by 14 that should be the aoc

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