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When will it end

At home at school, fuck even my from the Philippines bitch at me. EVERYONE seems to bitch at me, even some of you here. I started to realize school sucked a few years ago. I was the nerd of the class until my parents got divorced. I realized that the world sucked. My parents would get pissed at me for no reason when i was younger. That kinda ruined my self esteem. For a while my life miserable, to the point where at school o would yell at someone just for talking to me. I was miserable enough that i though I was going to lose control. I almost killed myself. School never made things better. I was an outcast. Eventually i just stoped giving a crap. My As went to D's and F's. I dont want to follow what my family wants. To hell with them. I relized that in my views there is no heaven or hell, but nothingness. We waste our lives in a complicated society that makes no sense to me any more. I still have problems to this day. My teachers say your grades dont reflect on your knowledge. They said im smarter than most Honors student. FUCK THEM. Im different accept it. I fail because i dont care. I would rather take over the world and make everyone else suffer. Because im unstalble in many ways doesn't mean im bad just troubled. To me theres nothing at the end of the tunnel except nothingness.
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Don't wrry buddy its okay. trust me i used to be like that but........ Oh damn i forgot what i did! Oh wait that's it. I ran away from home for a few years(someone covered for me and im oh so glad he did) into the bush out into plains. I walked across australia collecting money as i went, doing jobs and collecting handouts (I got enuf for food) until i reachjed perth where i had enuf money to fly back. Do something like this, it relaxs you. I'm gunna do another one soon too. but also have sum money beforehand for the flight, it helps

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magic Wrote:fuck even my from the Philippines bitch at me

whats that mean?
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AWOL Wrote:Don't wrry buddy its okay. trust me i used to be like that but........ Oh damn i forgot what i did! Oh wait that's it. I ran away from home for a few years(someone covered for me and im oh so glad he did) into the bush out into plains. I walked across australia collecting money as i went, doing jobs and collecting handouts (I got enuf for food) until i reachjed perth where i had enuf money to fly back. Do something like this, it relaxs you. I'm gunna do another one soon too. but also have sum money beforehand for the flight, it helps

Thats a preety fucken awesome story. I plan on doing something similar one day. Only i plan to use a motorcycle (fuck walking) and i plan on working doing fruit picking and shit. Tell us about your adventrues dude... maybe in another thread since i have sufficiently hijacked this one.
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Yeah... The world seems to really suck right now, and I'm sorry that you're having these problems. Hug
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"fuck walking" I laughed. Two reasons i walked
1. I'm not old enug (HA ADULTS JUST ANOTHER REASON FA US TO HATE YA)
2. It let's take in everything it calms you down and especially lets you appreciate the beauty of nature.

Reasons not to tell your parents:
1.it's obvious
2. why are u still here
3. Nah i dont feel like telling my story.
4. Why u say.
5.id give out the reason im gay
6. and i don't want that now
7. do i?
8.you still wanna now?
9. okay but ill have to kill ya.
10. Shooting
11. begins to tell story

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I like that walking across the country idea. Sounds interesting.

Quote:We waste our lives in a complicated society that makes no sense to me any more.

Hehe. Yeah, I try to ignore society as much as possible. I don't mean ignore people per se, but ignore the silly 'standards' and things that they expect of you. It's a good way to find out who's worth talking to and who isn't... anyone who freaks out if you don't follow the standards is a stupid moron. Stay away Smile

Quote:I still have problems to this day. My teachers say your grades dont reflect on your knowledge. They said im smarter than most Honors student. FUCK THEM. Im different accept it. I fail because i dont care.

They told me the same thing. I didn't care either. But I passed with a B average anyways because my dad bribed me with money for my own computer... Razz
Otherwise I probably wouldn't have bothered.

But why make everyone else suffer? Only 10% of them actually deserve it, about 10% really don't deserve it, and the rest just don't really think either way.

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having a shit day but hugs to you Pounce Pounce Hug Hug Pounce Pounce

butterfly kisses xxx

COMMUNISM is when you have two cows, the governement takes both and gives you the milk
SOCIALISM is when you have two cows and give one to your neighbour.
NEW DEALISM (is when things go wrong) is when you have two cows, the government takes both, shoots one and milks the other but then throws the milk away.
CAPITALISM is when you have two cows and then sell one to buy a bull.
FACISM is when you have two cows, the government takes both and sells you the milk.
NAZISM is when you have two cows, the government takes both and shoots you.

I typed: "end of the world" into google and saw the hiroshima bombing and 9/11, irony much.
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My family bitches at me even from the Philippines. But i love nature. Its really the only thing in appreciate in the world. And i found out that i might not even graduate middle school which make my day even shittier than it already is None my teachers know something is wrong with me. To tell you the truth, my whole life ive wanted to go buy a farm in the countryside just to appreciate it. I wish i could do that but what isn't illegal now. Plus nowadays you need a good education TO GET A JOB. Shit i would love to leave school and learn on my own what i think is important not what corrupt bureaucrats and bastards think.
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fragile-esteem Wrote:having a shit day but hugs to you Pounce Pounce Hug Hug Pounce Pounce
Every day is a living hell for me.
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magic Wrote:At home at school, fuck even my from the Philippines bitch at me. EVERYONE seems to bitch at me, even some of you here. I started to realize school sucked a few years ago. I was the nerd of the class until my parents got divorced. I realized that the world sucked. My parents would get pissed at me for no reason when i was younger. That kinda ruined my self esteem. For a while my life miserable, to the point where at school o would yell at someone just for talking to me. I was miserable enough that i though I was going to lose control. I almost killed myself. School never made things better. I was an outcast. Eventually i just stoped giving a crap. My As went to D's and F's. I dont want to follow what my family wants. To hell with them. I relized that in my views there is no heaven or hell, but nothingness. We waste our lives in a complicated society that makes no sense to me any more. I still have problems to this day. My teachers say your grades dont reflect on your knowledge. They said im smarter than most Honors student. FUCK THEM. Im different accept it. I fail because i dont care. I would rather take over the world and make everyone else suffer. Because im unstalble in many ways doesn't mean im bad just troubled. To me theres nothing at the end of the tunnel except nothingness.

Hey, you're story is a bit like mine, don't worry someday things will get better Smile

Don't let other people affect how you feel about yourself. Does what they think really matter?

Heaven and Hell are real.

You probably are smarter then most honors students. In a half decent system you'd maybe be near the top, BUT the school system does not score you on how smart you are... they score you on how "applied" or "dillegent" you are (basicly how much a slave you are to it) A smart slave can get a better score but not all smart people are slaves to the school system... The truly smart ones should be destroying it, and hopefuly we will.

...what do grades and "honors" have to do with learning anyway? I say we get rid of them

"Taking over the world" might not be so far fetched Smile All it would take is a good plan and a lot of guns...

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Quote:they score you on how "applied" or "dillegent" you are (basicly how much a slave you are to it) A smart slave can get a better score but not all smart people are slaves to the school system
If grades were based on intelligence and not work, how would one define "intelligence?" Would one be talking about it in the non-scholastic sense of what an IQ test measures, or is it the knowledge of the subject matter for which one would go to school. In either case it is difficult not to imagine a false dichotomy among the students arising from judgment based largely upon one's genetic predisposition. Those who are disadvantaged would resent the more intelligent children's grades, which without work could hardly be considered "earned." It wouldn't be unlike the social rift between the mother working two full time jobs only to choose between phone service or electricity, and Paris Hilton, who has done and continues to do nothing to deserve her obscenely extravagant lifestyle.

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Today the world is always is a bad state. Governments try to control those who live within their borders. Id rater not have a government, and in todays society why have money. I dont even get why it still exist wars are fought over it. Schools force us to go to school so they get paid
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I could almost guarantee that you'd rather have some sort of government than none at all. The only question is what level of intervention people would allow their government to take. Would you care to expound on your statement...

Quote:Governments try to control those who live within their borders
...to encompass what you feel are some of the more specific injustices that are commonly committed among the residents of any given developed country.

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Headspace Wrote:I could almost guarantee that you'd rather have some sort of government than none at all. The only question is what level of intervention people would allow their government to take. Would you care to expound on your statement...

Quote:Governments try to control those who live within their borders
...to encompass what you feel are some of the more specific injustices that are commonly committed among the residents of any given developed country.
Think of communism and racism.
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magic Wrote:
Headspace Wrote:I could almost guarantee that you'd rather have some sort of government than none at all. The only question is what level of intervention people would allow their government to take. Would you care to expound on your statement...

Quote:Governments try to control those who live within their borders
...to encompass what you feel are some of the more specific injustices that are commonly committed among the residents of any given developed country.
Think of communism and racism.
Both of which are regarded as extreme by large numbers of people. And racism isn't the product of government, it is the product of public sentiment. What would the benefits be of lacking any sort of governmental structure?

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Me doing whatever the hell i want, o yeah NO SCHOOL
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magic Wrote:Me doing whatever the hell i want, o yeah NO SCHOOL
If people could do whatever the hell they wanted, what would stop people from robbing, raping and murdering others?

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Headspace Wrote:
magic Wrote:Me doing whatever the hell i want, o yeah NO SCHOOL
If people could do whatever the hell they wanted, what would stop people from robbing, raping and murdering others?
ABOSULUTLY NOTHING EVERYBODY FOR THEM SELFS
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magic Wrote:
Headspace Wrote:
magic Wrote:Me doing whatever the hell i want, o yeah NO SCHOOL
If people could do whatever the hell they wanted, what would stop people from robbing, raping and murdering others?
ABOSULUTLY NOTHING EVERYBODY FOR THEM SELFS
LOLOLOL!11!!!ONEONE111!!!

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magic Wrote:
Headspace Wrote:
magic Wrote:Me doing whatever the hell i want, o yeah NO SCHOOL
If people could do whatever the hell they wanted, what would stop people from robbing, raping and murdering others?
ABOSULUTLY NOTHING EVERYBODY FOR THEM SELFS
Are you a troll?

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By that what is your definition of a troll. EVERYONE KEEPS CALLING ME A FUCKING TROLL, ITS ANNOYING AND THEN YOUR GONNA SAY ITS MY FAULT
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Leave Magic alone!! What has he ever done to you!!! LEAVE MAGIC ALONE!!! Cries

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magic Wrote:By that what is your definition of a troll. EVERYONE KEEPS CALLING ME A FUCKING TROLL, ITS ANNOYING AND THEN YOUR GONNA SAY ITS MY FAULT
What am I supposed to think? You're always complaining about how bad the world sucks. You complain about the fact that governments are pieces of shit and schools are pieces of shit and that people are pieces of shit and we're turning this planet into a piece of shit. You say you're smart, and you touted the fact that your teacher said you're smarter than most honors students. And yet here you are, having been confronted with the reality that without a government, a position you seem to staunchly advocate, the world will only get worse, and people will rape and murder without consequence, and you take a stance of noninterference, of every man for himself, of the instant gratification of instant desire.

You take your opinions and, as if through some moral or spiritual surrender, support the further denigration of society and mankind. This tells me one of four things: You are either hopelessly resigned to the fact that the world will always suck, that you only care about yourself and fulfilling your most immediate desires, you are beyond the point of caring, or that you're not really smart and have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Is it one of the above or have I missed something?

It just seems like whenever you're not too busy complaining about something, you're only working to make the problem worse.

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He's not a troll.

<lordpie> Life sucks so much right now. It seems I'm spending all of it doing math.
<Rosti_LFC> You are "Math Boy"
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youvebeenthunderstruck Wrote:He's not a troll.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND FUCK I HATE THE WORLD I CANT STOP MAKING THE THAT POINT
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magic Wrote:
youvebeenthunderstruck Wrote:He's not a troll.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND FUCK I HATE THE WORLD I CANT STOP MAKING THE THAT POINT
So why not try to make it better?

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Headspace Wrote:
magic Wrote:By that what is your definition of a troll. EVERYONE KEEPS CALLING ME A FUCKING TROLL, ITS ANNOYING AND THEN YOUR GONNA SAY ITS MY FAULT
What am I supposed to think? You're always complaining about how bad the world sucks. You complain about the fact that governments are pieces of shit and schools are pieces of shit and that people are pieces of shit and we're turning this planet into a piece of shit. You say you're smart, and you touted the fact that your teacher said you're smarter than most honors students. And yet here you are, having been confronted with the reality that without a government, a position you seem to staunchly advocate, the world will only get worse, and people will rape and murder without consequence, and you take a stance of noninterference, of every man for himself, of the instant gratification of instant desire.

You take your opinions and, as if through some moral or spiritual surrender, support the further denigration of society and mankind. This tells me one of four things: You are either hopelessly resigned to the fact that the world will always suck, that you only care about yourself and fulfilling your most immediate desires, you are beyond the point of caring, or that you're not really smart and have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Is it one of the above or have I missed something?

It just seems like whenever you're not too busy complaining about something, you're only working to make the problem worse.
YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT
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Do you think he's said anything to the contrary?

<lordpie> Life sucks so much right now. It seems I'm spending all of it doing math.
<Rosti_LFC> You are "Math Boy"
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IDK AND I LIKE USING CAPS ITS FUN
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