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Progressive rock.

Progressive rock (also referred to as art rock) is a form of rock music that evolved in the late 60s and rose to high popularity in the 70s. Progressive rock’s song structures are typically much different from those of standard pop songs, often incorporating unusual time signatures, classical, jazz, and experimental influences, and less of a melodic focus than other genres. Some characteristics of prog include the aforementioned odd time signatures and outside influences, long, “suite”-like pieces that often stretch for more than 20 minutes, fantasy-based lyrics, extended keyboard solos, elaborate stage shows and stage theatrics, concept albums/rock operas, and well-designed album art.

The roots of prog are often said to begin in the late 60s, when bands such as Cream and The Beatles began to experiment beyond the standard 3 minute long pop song format. The Beatles are often said to have sown the first seeds of the movement, so to speak, incorporating orchestral arrangements onto their 1966 song “Eleanor Rigby”, and beginning the trend of elaborate album artwork with their 1967 record Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.

In the mid-to-late 60s, the first prog bands began to form, though they were not all playing what was to be considered progressive rock at the time. By the early 70s, prog was now a viable genre of music. Bands such as Emerson, Lake, and Palmer (Tarkus, 1971), Genesis (Selling England By The Pound, 1973), Pink Floyd (Dark Side Of The Moon, 1972), and Yes (Close To The Edge, 1973), all rose to popularity. As well, acts such as Rush and King Crimson experienced moderate popularity (though Rush’s was to become much bigger in the 1980s). For a while, prog was a critically lauded genre.

In the late Seventies, with the advent of punk helping to dismiss prog bands as overblown, indulgent dinosaurs, and with key personnel changes among prominent bands, the genre experienced a decline. However, some bands continued to have popularity, tweaking their styles somewhat. For example, Genesis had their biggest success in the 80s when they became more of a pop/rock band under the leadership of Phil Collins.

Though progressive rock has not gotten close to the heights reached in the 70s, interest in the genre remains high. Neo-prog bands such as Marillion and Pendragon helped revive the genre somewhat, and more modern bands such as Queensryche, Tool, and Dream Theater have had commercial and critical success. Despite the genre’s obvious influence and importance in the history of rock music, prog has not been recognized by some of the eminent rock critics or establishments, such as Rolling Stone and the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame. With the exception of Pink Floyd, no truly progressive band has been inducted into the Hall, though bands such as Jethro Tull and Procul Harum have been nominated in the past.


(essay written with the help of Wikipedia)

Maybe this could get stickied....

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Re: Progressive rock.

You would like Liquid Tension Experiment, Its Dream Theater's musicians without any vocals. And its very Progressive
05-13-2008 01:44 PM
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Re: Progressive rock.

Those guys are cool. I don't listen to them nearly as much as I do Dream Theater, but they're good to listen to when you just want to kick back & jam.

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bump

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Re: Progressive rock.

As you can tell by my sig, I like Dream Theater. Have you heard of a band called Porcupine Tree? They're a lot like DT.
06-06-2008 02:20 PM
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Re: Progressive rock.

Ruuuuush.


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Stickeh. Awesome.

Quote:As you can tell by my sig, I like Dream Theater. Have you heard of a band called Porcupine Tree? They're a lot like DT.

I've heard of them, but not their music, save for a few seconds of the beginning of one of their songs. From what I've read, they're pretty good.

Quote:And Coheed? Maybe.

Come on, "2113"? "Welcome Home"? Entries in Wikipedia & AMG categorising their music as progressive rock or metal?

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Progressive Rock and Metal FTW!
My favorite Prog Metal bands are Green Carnation, Communic, Opeth, and Dream Theater.

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Quote:And Coheed? Maybe.

Come on, "2113"? "Welcome Home"? Entries in Wikipedia & AMG categorising their music as progressive rock or metal?[/quote]

So...is that a "come on, don't be ridiculous, of course they are" or a "Are you insane? They're emo, LOLOLOLOLOL" ?
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Re: Progressive rock.

The first one.

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Re: Progressive rock.

Love it, a lot. Jethro Tull is one of my favorite bands. Also like Uriah Heep, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Gnodriling, Atlas, Asia Minor, KING CRIMSON, and many others. I also love Progressive Metal, such as Porcupine Tree, TOOL, A Perfect Circle, Mastodon, etc

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Paper Cuts Wrote:TOOL, A Perfect Circle, etc

FTW.
11-03-2009 01:08 PM
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PRAWG RAWK 4EV3R

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PROCOL HARUM, BITCHES

"I heard a joke once. Man goes to doctor says "I'm terribly depressed". Doctor says "I know just what you should do. Poliacci the clown is in town, go see him, you'll be cheered right up." The man bursts into tears. "But Doctor, I am Poliacci." Funny joke. Roll on snare drum. Everyone laugh."

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BobManPerson II Wrote:PROCOL HARUM, BITCHES
Dude I was listening to them just earlier today. Damn good band, I have A Salty Dog in FLAC bitch. ^_^

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|55555| Wrote:
BobManPerson II Wrote:PROCOL HARUM, BITCHES
Dude I was listening to them just earlier today. Damn good band, I have A Salty Dog in FLAC bitch. ^_^

High five, nigger.

Check out Pandora's Box. Effing A song.

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|55555| Wrote:Progressive Rock and Metal FTW!
My favorite Prog Metal bands are Green Carnation, Communic, Opeth, and Dream Theater.
This. Symphony X is a really good band too.

The only progressive rock bands I know are ELP and Genesis.

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Lunatic Wrote:
|55555| Wrote:Progressive Rock and Metal FTW!
My favorite Prog Metal bands are Green Carnation, Communic, Opeth, and Dream Theater.
This. Symphony X is a really good band too.

The only progressive rock bands I know are ELP and Genesis.
For the record I now despise half of the bands I had listed as my favorites back then. xD Especially shitty ass dream theater.

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|55555| Wrote:For the record I now despise half of the bands I had listed as my favorites back then. xD Especially shitty ass dream theater.
Why? Because of BS&SL? It's a really mediocre album IMO. Lots of copied riffs, lyrics and shit.

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Lunatic Wrote:
|55555| Wrote:For the record I now despise half of the bands I had listed as my favorites back then. xD Especially shitty ass dream theater.
Why? Because of BS&SL? It's a really mediocre album IMO. Lots of copied riffs, lyrics and shit.
All their albums suck. lo0lo0lo0

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I am not sure if I should say this on the metal thread, because the band plays prog metal, but Andromeda is great!!
Their lyrics always cheer me up and cause flow to happen even when doing boring stuff while listening!

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The Best Prog bands IMO are:

- Pink Floyd
- King Crimson
- Rush
- Opeth
- Dream Theater
- Tool
- Mastodon
11-21-2011 11:54 AM
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Your taste is the shit derp

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RE: Progressive rock.

I love Pink Floyd. Someday, I'm gonna get all their albums.

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(12-04-2011 08:33 AM)batboy138 Wrote:  I love Pink Floyd. Someday, I'm gonna get all their albums.

This... except for the "all their albums" part, unless I become rich or something.
prog rockish bands I know of: Pink Floyd, ELP, Rush, Porcupine Tree, King Crimson (which I SHOULD be more familiar with), Cynic

Also I went to a dream theater concert a while ago. Wasn't too bad. I like some of their songs.

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Progressive rock.

My favorite genre!

-Rush
-Peter Gabriel Genesis
-IQ
-Gentle Giant
-Yes
-Iron Maiden (seriously, I know they are usually considered straight up metal, but they are very prog)
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Progressive rock.

A few off the top of my head:
Yes
Pink Floyd
Porcupine Tree
Salem Hill
Big Big Train
Kansas
Genesis (Peter Gabriel)
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This thread shows off that 2008 |55555| was not an intelligent guy at all.

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Progressive rock.

I am personally more of a fan of the psychedelic rock genre. Pink Floyd and The Doors are mostly what I listen to in that genre. But, I also like the Stones, Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and I have created a couple avant-garde/neo-pyschedelic/synth rock on Soundation.

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