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Stephanie, as for why they have to learn all of that stuff, I'm reading a pretty fascinating book on the development of the American public school system. I'm sure a lot of it is relevant to many schools using similar models. The book is John Taylor Gatto's The Underground History of American Education. Full citation below. BTW, I'm also a teacher (college level in the U.S.).

Gatto, John Taylor. 2003. The underground history of American education : A schoolteacher’s intimate investigation into the prison of modern schooling. New York: Oxford Village Press.

You can find a copy of it here for a pretty reasonable price (US$ 34.95, but it's a thick book). http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/bookstore/index.htm

And welcome to SS. Good place, and lots of good folks here.

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That whole book is freely available online, too.

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True. I just find it a heck of a lot harder to use for my work that way. No page references, so I can't cite sources appropriately.

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Doc Johnson Wrote:True. I just find it a heck of a lot harder to use for my work that way. No page references, so I can't cite sources appropriately.
Paper is easier to read, but this is a terrible reason not to be using the digital version. If this is the reason you can't use the digital version, there's something's wrong with the citation style you're using. I guess academia is conservative in typographic style.
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The styleguide is The Chicago Manual of Style, 15th edition. It's 956 pages long, so yeah. Kinda. Smile

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Doc Johnson Wrote:The styleguide is The Chicago Manual of Style, 15th edition. It's 956 pages long, so yeah. Kinda. Smile
I hate Chicago and MLA styles. Are you jealous of scientists whose papers don't have to fit a disgusting typographic style and whose bibliographies follow a logical format?
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Umm.. no? I just want to get the fucker published. So my publisher says "put it in Chicago style" and that's what I gotta do. School is not the only place where people have to deal w/ stupid bullshit. Laugh

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mean the whole "you'll have to use this in real life so pay attention" thing is TRUE!?!?!
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Quote:SoulRiser - I found this site, if you must know the honest truth, by typing "school sux" into google.


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And teacher, welcome, as long as you don't do anything like you do in school you're welcome here. But then again, I can't blame you for being here-it is one of the greatest sites ever. Google

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Sorry ifthat last comment was kind of offensive. Let me rephrase that:

As long as you don't do the bad things that most teachers do in school, you're welcome here. Biggrin

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Yes, I know, I'll try to edit next time.

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