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Youth is not a fucking test!
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Youth is not a fucking test!

School already sucks for most kids. Wouldn't it suck more if you were told every day that nothing you were doing mattered? That your social lives, your writing, your creativity, your games, were all just a fucking waste? That it was all going to be meaningless one day.

There's a lot of things that contribute to the problems of youth, but one of the worst things is the delusion that your youth is a test, a training period for the real world. What the fuck is this "real world"? A job, a relationship, "adult" problems?

10 years down the road, most of you will have steady jobs and an indepedent place to live. But believe me, this period of your life is not a test, it's not a training period! Youth is meaningful! It's not a race to grow up, it's not even just a time of learning. It's life! It's meaningful! Live your youth, and stop thinking that it's just meant to shape your future self. It's shaping your present self. You can be 40, 15, or 8, it doesn't matter, your life is equally meaningful.

You aren't in training for life, you're living life! So celebrate youth, and forget the fucking delusion that it's nothing more than preperation for the future. Youth is meaningful, your daily life is just as meaningful as an adult's.

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A-M-E-N BROTHA!!!!! :biggrin:

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At any age, you're both living a very real life, and potentially preparing for the rest of it. I don't know why so many people propagate "pre-life" process that has no value itself is ludicrous, but it's also a major claim behind forcing people to make school the center of their life, even if they aren't getting much out of it.

I also have always hated the claim by adults that "youth are the best years of your life." The fact is, you can have great years or horrible years -- or weeks, months, days, hours -- at any time in your life.

It's true that when you're younger, you tend to still have a lot to learn, to experience, etc., and that's good to keep in mind, but the same is really true later in life. So many people grow only to a certain point -- a certain lifestyle or social role or personality or whatever -- and consider themselves grown up, and incapable of much further change.

Some of the idea that youth is just preparation for adulthood, is based on people going into a single career and lifestyle after high school, or college -- the military, a corporation, housewife, some occupation, whatever -- and progressing along that one line basically forever, and at a pace mostly set by "the rules" and a little by how hard you work. But increasingly, it's practical and common both to jump ahead and fall behind some standard like that, to switch careers, move, explore, and be an adult in ways when you're young, and be young in ways later in life. It's all a lot more up to us what we want our life to mean and than people used to believe.
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I completely agree... that is I would if IRL or a 'real world' existed. Razz

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Nicely said, both people whose names start with 'x'. Smile

Every moment you're alive is real life, and training for later on can happen all the time, if you let it. A lot of people seem to shut off their learning receptors at some point Razz

Quote:I also have always hated the claim by adults that "youth are the best years of your life." The fact is, you can have great years or horrible years -- or weeks, months, days, hours -- at any time in your life.

It's actually pretty sad when people say that. People who say that probably aren't having much fun anymore, even though they probably could if they tried. My teenage years sucked badly in comparison to now. Telling someone who's having a really bad childhood that "youth are the best years of your life" will either make them conclude that you're smoking something really potent, or make them think "What? You mean this is as good as it gets? I want a refund!".

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SoulRiser Wrote:Nicely said, both people whose names start with 'x'. Smile

Every moment you're alive is real life, and training for later on can happen all the time, if you let it. A lot of people seem to shut off their learning receptors at some point Razz

Quote:I also have always hated the claim by adults that "youth are the best years of your life." The fact is, you can have great years or horrible years -- or weeks, months, days, hours -- at any time in your life.

It's actually pretty sad when people say that. People who say that probably aren't having much fun anymore, even though they probably could if they tried. My teenage years sucked badly in comparison to now. Telling someone who's having a really bad childhood that "youth are the best years of your life" will either make them conclude that you're smoking something really potent, or make them think "What? You mean this is as good as it gets? I want a refund!".
Which can be the first step on the path to suicide. Stupid adults :/

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liq3 Wrote:
SoulRiser Wrote:"What? You mean this is as good as it gets? I want a refund!".
Which can be the first step on the path to suicide. Stupid adults :/

Took the words out of my mouth, liq3.

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humans are a waste.... as harsh as that may sound the only thing we have on this planet that is ACTUALLY important is the mind all we do is pollute destroy and manipulate the environment around us killing and wiping out other species
the only thing we do that has point is being creative using your mind to create things if it wernt for creativity we would surely be the most useless animal on the planet
the reason we destroy and build huge cities and mess up the natural environment is because most dont see creativity as important so we find something else to build on or do so we tower over all the other animals on this miserable little planet.... most of us kids use our minds which is why adults see us as unimportant
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Quote:the reason we destroy and build huge cities and mess up the natural environment is because most dont see creativity as important so we find something else to build on or do so we tower over all the other animals on this miserable little planet.... most of us kids use our minds which is why adults see us as unimportant

That's a pretty interesting theory actually.

But then, there are different kinds of creativity. Building large cities is kinda creative in a way, though messing up the environment is a side effect of valuing profits way too highly above all else.

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SoulRiser Wrote:But then, there are different kinds of creativity. Building large cities is kinda creative in a way, though messing up the environment is a side effect of valuing profits way too highly above all else.

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yeah thats part of it to but that would just make it more complex and my brain hurts right now lol
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nothing does matter though.

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that is why my theory of "fuck school" is a good one, do no wasting of "the best years of your life" and have fun!!!

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its not a test your definetly right. None

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Absolutely right.

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your should do what you want with your life you only got one.

life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
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Anyone watch House M.D.?
Because that was his reasoning behind his lack of religion.
"I just find it easier to believe that all this isn't a test. That what we do here actually matters."
The quote was something like that.

An it Harm None, Do What Ye Will
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Could not of said it any better myself! Respect to your words.
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Fuck the police!
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I agree. It's stupid to "train" for life when we are already in it!

And our youth isn't the best part of our lives! How can it be when we have to attend school?

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A representative from Columbia University told me "Education is not preparation for life; education is life." As corny as it sounds, especially from an "educator," it was true. What the hell do adults mean when they say we're "preparing for the real world"? Aren't we in the same world? Sure, we don't get money, but that's because we don't have the skills. School isn't really helping with that.

And I fucking hate the quote "High school is the best time of your life." Bull fucking shit. If that's true, than fuck all of this, I'm screwed. Frankly, I feel sorry for anyone who sees high school as the best time in their lives.
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l must say that l almost cried when l read it. lf it was a bit longer, l would've. No joke. l agree. All adults are doing in current society is making us youth be in a delusion that they're "testing" us, like we're all retarded or something and very dumb.

l hate it, and l have to agree with what you say. Pretty much most of all of it.
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People say that our youth is a test, but they don't realize that any day now could be our last. They need to wake up and realize that every single day of life is important. God gave us these lives which should be used for what we wish. I'd much prefer to go to church with my days rather than something as pointless as school.


They are weak, pathetic fools that know nothing about life. So I agree with you.
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People say that our youth is a test, but they don't realize that any day now could be our last. They need to wake up and realize that every single day of life is important. God gave us these lives which should be used for what we wish. I'd much prefer to go to church with my days rather than something as pointless as school.


They are weak, pathetic fools that know nothing about life. So I agree with you.
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People say that our youth is a test, but they don't realize that any day now could be our last. They need to wake up and realize that every single day of life is important. God gave us these lives which should be used for what we wish. I'd much prefer to go to church with my days rather than something as pointless as school.


They are weak, pathetic fools that know nothing about life. So I agree with you.
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Why did that post three times?
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Looking at the dates, this has been bumped out of obscurity quite often. Perhaps that's because it's so true - every day, every action, maybe even every thought, matters.

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I will always want to be a child at heart. Being mature isn't a fun pastime. It's much better to have those remnants of a child locked inside of you somewhere, but with the door open and a tunnel outside the prison. That's right, I swallowed a prison and locked my inner child in it, then let him loose. I think I swallowed arkam asylum, or the prison of infinite exits.
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I'm 15, and I already feel as though my life is over most of the time. My parents refuse to let me go - I still have to ask to leave the house, still have to go with a friend, and the lock to my room is gone. No privacy - even when I'm getting dressed my dad barges in without knocking to annoy me about something. I'm hoping to get a job and leave, but years are starting to feel like a long time. Just like every day. I do what I can to work towards my goal - if being in a school and holding back the urge to severely harm/murder my parents keep the fuckwad cops off my doorstep, then fine, its a small price to pay for bettering myself and working towards my goals.
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Mom says I will think differently about school when I grow up, I will not make that happen, whatever school once was supposed to give has lost its purpose and its true goal.
Dad says school will bring you happiness and Mom as well as a matter of fact, they say school will make your dreams come true and following the path of least resistance is wrong son. Getting a good education and a nice job with a good salary is very important. You have dreams son, well you need a job to fulfill them..........lack of understanding parents.
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