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Re: Student revolt
Coma Girl Wrote:would it seem weird if every student stopped going to school but went to a place together to learn something, like, made a different kind of thing, maybe rented out a huge hall, and went together there so they could use that as a school...
something along the lines of that?
LOL. Do you honestly believe people would do this? People have no respect for learning.
This is why this "revolution" is fucking dumb. People will revolt for the wrong reason, and the government will inevitably take over again because everyone missed the point.
No one is going to risk a revolution to go learn stuff. HAHAHA
They're going to revolt and they're going to go home and watch TV and talk to friends over the internet saying, "OMG LOL. r3volu7ion! nao i can jus' waste my life away cuz iz kool!!!11loolololicame"
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Re: Student revolt
No. I think it would be better if people did just sit at home. But the problem is that the government will inevitably convince people do go back to school with loads and loads of propaganda and if push comes to shove, the enactment of new laws to react violently to insurrection.
If people revolted for the right reason, there is no way the government would win. Unfortunately if people did revolt for the right reason, they probably already had the necessary mindset to resist going to school and having their mind destroyed and we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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The quieter you become, the more you can hear. - Baba Ram Dass
The whole moon and the entire sky are reflected in one dewdrop on the grass. - Dogen
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Possessing much knowledge is like having a thousand foot fishing line with a hook, but the fish is always an inch beyond the hook. - Zen saying
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Re: Student revolt
Anyway...I think it would be cool to have a website with all our best stuff about why state education (AKA government detention camps) is a piece of shit and to advocate revolting. We can decide on a date later and other details.
It's worth a try even though I know this is the stupidest idea ever.
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Great Faith. Great Doubt. Great Effort. - The three qualities necessary for training. - Zen saying
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Re: Student revolt
Stratovarius Wrote:No. I think it would be better if people did just sit at home. But the problem is that the government will inevitably convince people do go back to school with loads and loads of propaganda and if push comes to shove, the enactment of new laws to react violently to insurrection.
That would most likely result in the government being overthrown.
Quickly, we must spread thine propaganda! 
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Re: Student revolt
Even though I think social networking sites are dumb, Facebook and Myspace could be a start. 
To a mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. - Chuang-tzu
The quieter you become, the more you can hear. - Baba Ram Dass
The whole moon and the entire sky are reflected in one dewdrop on the grass. - Dogen
Great Faith. Great Doubt. Great Effort. - The three qualities necessary for training. - Zen saying
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Re: Student revolt
To a mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. - Chuang-tzu
The quieter you become, the more you can hear. - Baba Ram Dass
The whole moon and the entire sky are reflected in one dewdrop on the grass. - Dogen
Great Faith. Great Doubt. Great Effort. - The three qualities necessary for training. - Zen saying
Possessing much knowledge is like having a thousand foot fishing line with a hook, but the fish is always an inch beyond the hook. - Zen saying
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Re: Student revolt
Coma Girl Wrote:would it seem weird if every student stopped going to school but went to a place together to learn something, like, made a different kind of thing, maybe rented out a huge hall, and went together there so they could use that as a school...
something along the lines of that?
Yea maybe it could be like an "information market" where maybe people could exhcange books, knowledge and teach each other things. Perhaps We could have lots of information markets all over the place.
Btw Stratovarius your cup is half empty I guess...
Do we need a new thread? Because this thread will probably go back to debating the issue rather than doing something about it.
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Stratovarius Wrote:Anyway...I think it would be cool to have a website with all our best stuff about why state education (AKA government detention camps) is a piece of shit and to advocate revolting..
Erm, why not just promote this site? Make a flier that has the web address and some info and get more people involved? Use the increased networks to set up support groups for school sufferers in everyones area and then plan mass school refusals from there?
Start small, think big.
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psychopath Wrote:Coma Girl Wrote:would it seem weird if every student stopped going to school but went to a place together to learn something, like, made a different kind of thing, maybe rented out a huge hall, and went together there so they could use that as a school...
something along the lines of that?
Btw Stratovarius your cup is half empty I guess...
What the hell is that supposed to mean?
To a mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. - Chuang-tzu
The quieter you become, the more you can hear. - Baba Ram Dass
The whole moon and the entire sky are reflected in one dewdrop on the grass. - Dogen
Great Faith. Great Doubt. Great Effort. - The three qualities necessary for training. - Zen saying
Possessing much knowledge is like having a thousand foot fishing line with a hook, but the fish is always an inch beyond the hook. - Zen saying
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Re: Student revolt
It's supposed to mean that you're a pessimist, didn't mean to offend you
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No I wasn't offended, I've just never heard that expression before...lol.
Also I'm a realist, not a pessimist.
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The quieter you become, the more you can hear. - Baba Ram Dass
The whole moon and the entire sky are reflected in one dewdrop on the grass. - Dogen
Great Faith. Great Doubt. Great Effort. - The three qualities necessary for training. - Zen saying
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liq3 Wrote:Probably Weswammy Wrote:A revolution is probably the stupidest thing you can do.
Not that it wouldn't be cool and make the world better, but it is near suicide. Also, if you even get a moderate revolutionary following they will kill you and say you were in a car wreck or something similar. Have you heard of Men In Black, even though Hollywood has made satires of the subject I'm sure they exist and that they make sure we never know exactly what's going on in the world.
They are smarter than us, they have better weapons, and they have brainwashed the general populace. A rebellion in the US of A is very stupid, more stupid than the Revolution that started this country.
...You failed there. A revolution would first require they are de-brainwashed.
And you fail at using the word "fail", sir.
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Can someone design me some pamphlets etc.
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Re: Student revolt
Okay... you guys can work on the student revolt, I'll work on trying to soften parents and teachers up to the concept of alternatives to school. Someone has to do that too, or else this will turn into a Us vs. Them scenario very quickly. They have to be able to understand why we're doing this. I'm planning on setting up a site just about alternatives to school and why they are better. It'll look friendlier to the general population than SS does... 
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"Revolt" doesn't necessarily mean chaos in the street and blood. It can be working toward the cause, and changing hearts and minds. I'm hoping people mean this. It's a good way to do things.
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A small protest is good though. It gets you attention and if you play your cards correctly, you can get "the word" out to a lot of people.
To a mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. - Chuang-tzu
The quieter you become, the more you can hear. - Baba Ram Dass
The whole moon and the entire sky are reflected in one dewdrop on the grass. - Dogen
Great Faith. Great Doubt. Great Effort. - The three qualities necessary for training. - Zen saying
Possessing much knowledge is like having a thousand foot fishing line with a hook, but the fish is always an inch beyond the hook. - Zen saying
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I say we do something like a protest/parade thingy where we hold signs with different sayings as stated before in them; I saw more than enough crackpots in Hollywood, if people are used to that, god knows how they will react to us. Probably in a negative manner. But hey, maybe we will open a few people's eyes to school, hand out pamphlets with info on why school is bad, etc. I have about 5, 10, or so many friends who probably would do something like that. So, that's another idea.
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STOP FUCKING BUMPING!!! The new topic is 'fighting tyranny one school at a time'
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AWOL Wrote:STOP FUCKING BUMPING!!! The new topic is 'fighting tyranny one school at a time'
Um, my post fit in with that, I had an idea like a peaceful protest.
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