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Reformation of SS leadership?
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

With the situation of many of the current mods abusing powers I think they should all be demoded effective immediately and elections should start ASAP>!!!!
01-01-2009 05:45 AM
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

Maxwell Wrote:With the situation of many of the current mods abusing powers I think they should all be demoded effective immediately and elections should start ASAP>!!!!

hidden tags and warnings are not classed as abuse of mod powers

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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

random_name Wrote:
Maxwell Wrote:With the situation of many of the current mods abusing powers I think they should all be demoded effective immediately and elections should start ASAP>!!!!

hidden tags and warnings are not classed as abuse of mod powers
According to Soul's rules that image should have been deleted. Hidden tags is minor compared to that.

I think fist should personally strangle you.

Anyways, one thing I don't like about the elections is that they'll probably turn out to be more of a popularity contest (I like that person/agree with their opinion) whereas what is relevant is whether we can trust the person to do a good job moderating the forums.

Honestly, I think the IRC is flawed, but there is no abuse of power on the forums as of now.

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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

I just think the amount of mods we have now is a tad unnecessary, though what Puchiko said does have value; for example, I'd have no way of knowing who'd do a good job as a mod. I know the values of nobody here.

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Stop abuse, bullshit and make stuff effective(this goes for the effing IRC too!)

Also vote by popularity is bullshit.
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Hey, Kitsune?

Nobody fucking likes you. Shut the fuck up. And change your shitty avatar.
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youvebeenthunderstruck Wrote:Hey, Kitsune?

Nobody fucking likes you. Shut the fuck up. And change your shitty avatar.

Hey, Thunder?

Insulting me doesn't make my argument less valid. And put a avatar.
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Puchiko Wrote:
random_name Wrote:
Maxwell Wrote:With the situation of many of the current mods abusing powers I think they should all be demoded effective immediately and elections should start ASAP>!!!!

hidden tags and warnings are not classed as abuse of mod powers
According to Soul's rules that image should have been deleted. Hidden tags is minor compared to that.

I think fist should personally strangle you.

Anyways, one thing I don't like about the elections is that they'll probably turn out to be more of a popularity contest (I like that person/agree with their opinion) whereas what is relevant is whether we can trust the person to do a good job moderating the forums.

Honestly, I think the IRC is flawed, but there is no abuse of power on the forums as of now.

i edited it rather than deleted it - either way it serves the same purpose. i dont think fist should strangle me for that =]

youvebeenthunderstruck Wrote:Hey, Kitsune?

Nobody fucking likes you. Shut the fuck up. And change your shitty avatar.


speak for yourself, i like him.

Hidden stuff:
"A 'no' uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a 'yes' merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble." - Mahatma Gandhi

"The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it."

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-Ben Franklin

"when I was a kid I used to pray for a bicycle. then I realized that god doesn't work that way. so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness."
"I would rather die for something I believe in than live for anything else."
"What is the task of higher education? To make a man into a machine. What are the means employed? He is taught how to suffer being bored." – F W Nietzsche
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random_name Wrote:
Puchiko Wrote:
random_name Wrote:hidden tags and warnings are not classed as abuse of mod powers
According to Soul's rules that image should have been deleted. Hidden tags is minor compared to that.

I think fist should personally strangle you.

Anyways, one thing I don't like about the elections is that they'll probably turn out to be more of a popularity contest (I like that person/agree with their opinion) whereas what is relevant is whether we can trust the person to do a good job moderating the forums.

Honestly, I think the IRC is flawed, but there is no abuse of power on the forums as of now.

i edited it rather than deleted it - either way it serves the same purpose. i dont think fist should strangle me for that =]
Ah, sorry. I meant fist should strangle Maxwell for posting the pic, because she's his sister. It was directed at Maxwell, I'm now aware I should have used the quote tags in a different manner. I support what you did Razz

Squittle Wrote:I just think the amount of mods we have now is a tad unnecessary, though what Puchiko said does have value; for example, I'd have no way of knowing who'd do a good job as a mod. I know the values of nobody here.
You have a point. The "bystander effect" (a social psychological phenomenon in which individuals are less likely to offer help in an emergency situation when other people are present. The probability of help is inversely proportional to the number of bystanders.) has been well documented-if someone gets hurt and a lot of people see it, everyone just assumes someone else will help him. I assume this could work in a similar way on the forums. On the other hand, having a lot of mods means there's more people to solve problems. Overall, when it comes to deleting double posts/moving threads/splitting or merging threads; these tasks are getting done. Hence, I think it's mostly working as it is, and as they say: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Of course, this whole discussion is about whether it is broken or not.

Honestly though, Soul always makes a thread when moding people. These serve a dual purpose: to communicate with the new mods (see if they accept and if they have any questions), but the reason why these are public threads and not PMs is for members to raise objections. If we want to formalise or expand this stage, that's fine with me. I think it's important we remember the community already has a say in who becomes a mod or admin.

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01-02-2009 12:07 AM
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ah, my apologies then puchiko =]

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"The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it."

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-Ben Franklin

"when I was a kid I used to pray for a bicycle. then I realized that god doesn't work that way. so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness."
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"What is the task of higher education? To make a man into a machine. What are the means employed? He is taught how to suffer being bored." – F W Nietzsche
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Im sick and fucking tired of all this never ending bitching. Kitsune, grow a sense of humor and lighten the fuck up. "Abusive Mods" (you know who you are) need to man the fuck up, admit your wrong doings, stop causing said trouble, and stop making asses out of yourselves by portraying yourselves on a moral high ground of "doing for the lulz."

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JOHN TUTTLE FOR MOD 2009!!!

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