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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

Anonymous1.0 Wrote:
Maxwell Wrote:How many raids have their been in SS history?
One fairly large scale raid. But we have script kiddies and trolls coming in from somewhere. And they're more dangerous than the raiders.

Yes but the last script kiddie even made the current overabundance of mods/admins ineffective.
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Yes. But that problem has now been fixed. For better or worse.

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very true. Many with little experiance is no match for one with much experiance

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Maxwell: all SS decisions are either made by everybody, or by SoulRiser, as in the recent rearrangement of the forum. It's not like we have any monopoly.
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You just broke the rules

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Who deleted my post?

It said why is there a seperate mod/admin forum.
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Sorry, that was me, but one does not speak of the innner workings

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Why not? pm me if you must.
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LOL already done

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Anyway... basically, nothing is done without other members knowing.
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Animal farm anyone?

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Eh. Personally, I like things going as they are now. The site is running fine, though the signal to noise ratio leaves something to be desired. Hell, if anything, I'd just recommend either moding or admining the responsible users who are computer literate. All of them.

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I like the idea of having way too many mods and admins. Of course we shouldn't give everyone mod powers the moment they get here, but once they appear reasonably responsible and obviously aren't trolls or some such thing, why not? More is better. To be practical, idiocy will be more quickly removed; to turn to an overused scenario, in the case of a raid the forum will have someone to at least try to fix things instead of one or two mods who aren't on at the time.

I saw the benefit of this way on the IRC channel. Pretty much everyone is opped at some point even if they aren't set to be opped by services. If something goes wrong, anyone can take care of it, but there is less deliberate wrongdoing (or more tolerance thereof; either is fine, intarwebs, srs bsness, etc.) as everyone realizes they can take care of problems or be taken care of if they become one.
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Quote:I like the idea of having way too many mods and admins. Of course we shouldn't give everyone mod powers the moment they get here, but once they appear reasonably responsible and obviously aren't trolls or some such thing, why not? More is better. To be practical, idiocy will be more quickly removed; to turn to an overused scenario, in the case of a raid the forum will have someone to at least try to fix things instead of one or two mods who aren't on at the time.

I saw the benefit of this way on the IRC channel. Pretty much everyone is opped at some point even if they aren't set to be opped by services. If something goes wrong, anyone can take care of it, but there is less deliberate wrongdoing (or more tolerance thereof; either is fine, intarwebs, srs bsness, etc.) as everyone realizes they can take care of problems or be taken care of if they become one.

This is precisely why we have so many mods/admins. Smile

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Quote:I really, really don't think that the fact the "forums are declining" is because of number of mods or admins. How do you string that logic together?

I think Maxwell is more concerned about specific admins or mods, not the actual amount of them... but he hasn't really mentioned any specific names.

Max, if it was all entirely up to you, who would you have as admins and mods?

I'd propose a renaming of the word "moderator" to "forum cleaner" or something that sounds more crappy, if that'd make anyone feel less important by the "immense powers" the title bestows upon them. Or something.

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Ewewewew! Compromise! EEEEEEW!

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Laugh
I actually thought of that renaming idea a long time ago already.

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I think they should just be called Moderators. It's pointless to change it. Rolleyes
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youvebeenthunderstruck Wrote:I think they should just be called Moderators. It's pointless to change it. Rolleyes
I have to agree here....
Although the title of Janitor would be very lulz.

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SoulRiser should install Kusaba next April Fool's day to fuck with people. Razz
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*looks it up*
... that's the software 4chan runs on, right? Laugh

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OK, this is off-topic, and I'm probably going to sound like a noob, but what is with 4chan? Seems like there's a lot of references to the site here.

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4chan, because none of us are as bad as all of us.

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Hmmmmmm......... Global mods could be site mods (title) while non global mods could be the custodial technicians and be assigned to specific areas and sub forums

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Just leave it...
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I wouldn't mind the title of Janitor,because Janitors have cats. Change it if you like. =]

I agree - Maxwell, who would you choose as mods?

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You can't just kick people off the mod list without their consent because of the fact that some random person came up with a new and special idea.
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Nobody gets kicked off the mods list without a very good reason. Like fucking up the site or something. *looks at Freak and Vatman who are most likely not going to see this anyway*

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SoulRiser Wrote:Max, if it was all entirely up to you, who would you have as admins and mods?

Admins
-Soulriser
-Lifeischeese
-Rebelnerd
-youvebeenthunderstruck
-Wolfeh or Zero (undecided between them)

Mods
-Wolfeh or Zero
-Will(when active)
-Alucard438
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-ATX
-Happycamper
-Ayliania(when active)

Alternates
-Cory
-Kitty
-SK
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This is exactly my point... it would be callous to just remove people from the mod list because Maxwell thinks we need to display "leadership" or whatever it was.
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