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Reformation of SS leadership?
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Reformation of SS leadership?

I am aware that I might make enemies from this idea SS is constantly degenerating from what it used to be and I wish to make a serrious attempt to fix it.

Due to the unecessary amount of mods and admins on School-Survival the title of mod/admin is more of a metiphorical american eagle/abercrobi/hollister shirt and comes currently with very little responsibility and I beleive that there needs to be a demodification of current all mods and admins with the exception of Soulriser and Lifeischeese. Then a election open to all users could be held to vote 10(ten) active users of SS into mods then another election to vote 3(three) of these elected mods into admins. I also beleive that Admins and Mods can be demoded and replaced at any time through a public vote though admins can only be users who are allready mods.

I hope this is clear and hope this comes to effect.

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06-24-2008 10:02 AM
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

Please add ideas if you have any.
06-24-2008 10:29 AM
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

Eh. On one hand I could see where you're coming from. But personally, I like having a large number of mods/admins on a site. Especially this one. Got trolls gafuckinglore now. And the spammers are really starting to work. Plus if we have another raid hit a low raider to admin ratio would be nice. And I too am afraid it'll become a popularity contest.

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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

How many raids have their been in SS history?
06-24-2008 10:49 AM
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

I think that Rebel should be added to the do not demod list, he has been here since...forever. I like my modship, I got it in this way and I dont feel like giving it up but I guess Im in.

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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

I can understand you not wanting to lose your power alucard but thank you for your support.

And the do not demod list and this whole ordeal is really up to Soulriser.
06-24-2008 10:53 AM
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

I don't think the number is unncessary. It's what Soul chose to begin with. Even so, even if you think the forum is suffering a decline, it's not because of the number of mods or admins.
06-24-2008 10:57 AM
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

Aylinia (SP?) should also go on the do not unmod list. We should have Soul, Rebel and cheese on the admins list and Aylinia, Will and Camper on the do not unmod list

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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

Mods and Admins are in leadership positions and are (for lack of better term) "role models" for some users.
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

Will even though he is a genius and deserving of mod powers, rarely comes on and will I assume he will be very busy with university soon. And isn't Ayliania in Iraq or training or something?
06-24-2008 11:01 AM
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

To place to be voted in as admin you need to have at least three succsesive (in a row)terms as mod as well as activly moderate. To be voted in as mod you should exibit intelligence in your posts, as well as being around for at least 6 months.

Whilst some work diligently there are those who ask why. I am one of them
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This has been a test of the emergency pointless argument system. Had this been a real pointless argument, someone would have been called a facist.
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

Maxwell Wrote:Will even though he is a genius and deserving of mod powers, rarely comes on and will I assume he will be very busy with university soon. And isn't Ayliania in Iraq or training or something?
Ayliania is a founder (?) and thus deserving of perminant power

Whilst some work diligently there are those who ask why. I am one of them
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(='.'=) to help him gain world domination.
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Soul#2: I already have a grip. Doc:and a porno mag and a tube of lube I'm sure"
Lifes a bitch, then you marry one
This has been a test of the emergency pointless argument system. Had this been a real pointless argument, someone would have been called a facist.
Ceiling Cat: For that you need to wear a fursuit, though.

Inside sources say that Carla Franklin has had more dick in her than a public urinal.
06-24-2008 11:07 AM
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

I wasnt thinking about terms I just thought people could be voted out/in at any time due to lack/increase of activity/leadership/inteligence/ect.
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

I really, really don't think that the fact the "forums are declining" is because of number of mods or admins. How do you string that logic together?
06-24-2008 11:08 AM
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

Hmmmm, I was thinking that every 6 months we would all vote or somthing. If terms is a bad idea then one should serve as a mod for at least one year befor being admin.

Whilst some work diligently there are those who ask why. I am one of them
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Lifes a bitch, then you marry one
This has been a test of the emergency pointless argument system. Had this been a real pointless argument, someone would have been called a facist.
Ceiling Cat: For that you need to wear a fursuit, though.

Inside sources say that Carla Franklin has had more dick in her than a public urinal.
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

But then how do we decide on our first admins without having a low number for a certain period of time?
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

Mabey it would be a good idea to place each mod a specific forum to mod. So somone would get welcome, the next politics and so on

Whilst some work diligently there are those who ask why. I am one of them
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Inside sources say that Carla Franklin has had more dick in her than a public urinal.
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

I asked that a while ago but it didnt go over well.
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

Or we could leave the entire thing the way it is... Noo
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

It's better to have more, for security measures, IMO.

But I think if a mod/admin is idle for a long time, the mod/admin should be de-modded/adminned, and reinstated when he/she comes back.

I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

That would be up to Soul.

And anyway, SoulRiser made all of the mods and admins to begin with. It should all come down to her.
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

youvebeenthunderstruck Wrote:That would be up to Soul.

And anyway, SoulRiser made all of the mods and admins to begin with. It should all come down to her.

I beleive I already stated that.
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

What I mean is that if she chose them in the first place she must have a reason for choosing them. Getting rid of them because "the forums are in decline" sounds like a pretty shitty reason.
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

But I'm hoping strong leaders may prevent the forums from declining.
06-24-2008 11:20 AM
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

Befor it was like the idea posted, popular sovernty....without the demod option

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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

Administrators and moderators aren't "leaders". We just have the ability to do certain forum functions, but we're not "leaders". We don't set a "good example" just because we're that.
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

How many active users do we have?
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

Maxwell Wrote:How many raids have their been in SS history?
One fairly large scale raid. But we have script kiddies and trolls coming in from somewhere. And they're more dangerous than the raiders.

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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

youvebeenthunderstruck Wrote:Administrators and moderators aren't "leaders". We just have the ability to do certain forum functions, but we're not "leaders". We don't set a "good example" just because we're that.

But I find with the power and responsibility you guys are leaders. You decide on issues that the rest of us have no power over and as far as "good examples" I was a retard when I first came on here but through examples such as Kirby, Wolf and even yourself Thunder I have became more intelligent.
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Re: Reformation of SS leadership?

a few small ones and one big one

Whilst some work diligently there are those who ask why. I am one of them
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(='.'=) to help him gain world domination.
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Soul#2: I already have a grip. Doc:and a porno mag and a tube of lube I'm sure"
Lifes a bitch, then you marry one
This has been a test of the emergency pointless argument system. Had this been a real pointless argument, someone would have been called a facist.
Ceiling Cat: For that you need to wear a fursuit, though.

Inside sources say that Carla Franklin has had more dick in her than a public urinal.
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