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Voluntary Human Extinction Movement
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Voluntary Human Extinction Movement

This was mentioned in another topic, but I think it deserves its own thread...
http://www.vhemt.org/

Quote:"May we live long and die out"
Phasing out the human race by voluntarily ceasing to breed will allow Earth's biosphere to return to good health. Crowded conditions and resource shortages will improve as we become less dense.

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Re: Voluntary Human Extinction Movement

Ummm.... population control is a good thing. This is awful. Humans have the right to live.

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LOL. They're not suggesting murder, they're suggesting that we voluntarily stop breeding so the Earth doesn't get FUBAR from overpopulation, which is where we're already headed. I don't support extinction, but we've gotta stop with the overpopulation. It would make the Earth's problems as a whole so much easier to deal with.

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People won't do it because most are really stupid and don't care about the problem, and the population won't go down by much unless some horrible new disease shows up or there's a nuclear war or some other disaster.

(I try to look at the bright side of things. IT DOESN'T WORK.)
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Cosbydaf Wrote:People won't do it because most are really stupid and don't care about the problem, and the population won't go down by much unless some horrible new disease shows up or there's a nuclear war or some other disaster.

(I try to look at the bright side of things. IT DOESN'T WORK.)

That's why the plants have to intervene...[/The Happening joke]

But really...I'm all for population control. Even if it's just as simple as not having six kids...but at the same time I like big families. And I, in recent years, have begun to understand that stupid breeding instinct. The idea of passing down your genetics. I thought it was stupid before but I kind of get it now. I mean...I like the idea of there being a minime in the future.

But I still wish more families adopted.

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I'm for it.

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TearsOfBlood Wrote:I'm for it.

Me too.

My earlier post aside, I had read this site before, and I like the way he thinks. I don't care so much for the extinction aspect, but I'd say things would probably be better if there where less people.
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Yeah, whoever wrote the stuff on that site is very intelligent. I'm pretty sure they only called it the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement to grab people's attention more... and aren't totally serious about actually wanting the entire human race to go completely extinct. I don't want the human race to go completely extinct... but everyone and everything on the planet would be better off if there were less of us, especially if there were less irresponsible and stupid humans around. But less in general is good.

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This is bull crap. All we have to do is colonize Mars.
Of course, maybe some global catastrophe will happen in 2012 and it won't matter.

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wow, that is the most frigtarded i have ever seen. "human extinction movement." in case you guys know, te word extinction does not mean population control, it means that they want the human race to end in a couple of generations. those people are just a bunch of greentards who think earth would be better of without us. we may be the only form of intelligent life in the universe (we probably are not, but we might be), so we should cherish that.

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john tuttle Wrote:we may be the only form of intelligent life in the universe
Assuming the universe is infinite in size, this is scientifically impossible.

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LOL. Doubtful. If the universe is infinite in size there would be no thermal energy or unlimited thermal energy. Death either way.

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Elaborate on this, Anonymous.

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Another thread where I did.

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Meh.
I'll just try to rationalize it in my own head, then I'll look for it later and see if I'm right.
EDIT:Okay, I think I figured how I think it will work. Now I shall look!

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I don't have human extinction as my goal, but for all immediate purposes VHEMT is a good thing. It's educational, voluntary, and honest. I'm more inclined to believe humans should fill the role of "planet gardeners". Especially once we start colonizing other planets (if we last that long). Our concern should be the longevity, diversity, and affluence of all life, so what we need to do is fix our political and social ideologies to conform to that goal and think long-term.
A more challenging task is to look at the question from another angle. Saying you support voluntary abstinence is good, but do you also support voluntary reproduction? These are unfortunately one question, not two. If applying restrictions to reproduction was necessary to prevent wanton overpopulation/overconsumption, then I would even support nonvoluntary population control. Never outright eugenics, and certainly not negative eugenics, but simple birth prevention measures.

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TheDelinquent Wrote:I don't have human extinction as my goal, but for all immediate purposes VHEMT is a good thing. It's educational, voluntary, and honest. I'm more inclined to believe humans should fill the role of "planet gardeners". Especially once we start colonizing other planets (if we last that long). Our concern should be the longevity, diversity, and affluence of all life, so what we need to do is fix our political and social ideologies to conform to that goal and think long-term.
A more challenging task is to look at the question from another angle. Saying you support voluntary abstinence is good, but do you also support voluntary reproduction? These are unfortunately one question, not two. If applying restrictions to reproduction was necessary to prevent wanton overpopulation/overconsumption, then I would even support nonvoluntary population control. Never outright eugenics, and certainly not negative eugenics, but simple birth prevention measures.
VHEMT does not want population control. they do not even want more green-societies. they want HUMAN EXTINCTION.

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Yes, but that's fine for them to want, at least as long as their means to that ends remains purely communicative. I'm not going to force someone to reproduce, and they're not going to force me to "live long and die out", so VHEMT is virtuous.

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I still think Martian Colony is the way to go for population alleviation.
All we need to do is hold out on having too much unprotected sex for around 300-400 years. That should be enough time for Terraforming to take place.
It would be the pioneer days all over again!

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I agree. If we ever could, we should.

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I hope that can happen, even if it has to be overseen by the government and isn't done by private enterprises.

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The whole idea has no regard for the evolution of technology.

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population controll is good, but it cant be volentary, nobody would do it, we need mandatory, get rid of people that are wastes of space and food

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i say that we have a world-wide competition in video games, the people who are proficient and everyone else gets zyclon-b'd

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i saw we get firebomber planes, fill em with zyklon b gas, fly em over most of quebec and toronto, pretetioous fucks.

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Ya but i say we use napalm and start a fire storm that will ravage all of canada, then we move on to all of africa just because they started aids and thats not acceptable.

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I'm for involuntary sterilization of 90% of the human race. At this point, it's pretty much the only thing that can save us from killing ourselves through overpopulation. Tax breaks don't really seem to be working.

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itisi2 Wrote:I'm for involuntary sterilization of 90% of the human race.

Yes of course you are, as long as you're not in the 90% of the people being sterilized.
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Well those who were being sterilized would have to be sterilized for a reason ie mental disease, genetic mutation, or just plain stupidity. If we were to do this we have to have a very very thorough testing system to see who would be and who would.

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undergroundrevolutionary Wrote:Well those who were being sterilized would have to be sterilized for a reason ie mental disease, genetic mutation, or just plain stupidity. If we were to do this we have to have a very very thorough testing system to see who would be and who would.

Well than we need to make sure your sterilized.

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