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Alternatives to year 11 and 12? (Australia)
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Alternatives to year 11 and 12? (Australia)

Does anyone know if in nsw, aus I can somehow do the HSC one year earlier or maybe even skip it and take some other kind of exam or something(I have no idea what I'm talking about) to get into university...?

If I had to repeat year 11 what other options do I have other than enduring another year of hell?
07-09-2008 08:20 PM
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Re: Alternatives to year 11 and 12?

http://www.tafensw.edu.au/

Look around there for a uni or something that lets you use a TAFE course as credit, and doesn't require VCE to get into the TAFE course.

In VIC you can do a TAFE course at RMIT and literally skip year 11 and 12 and then move onto a bachelors degree after the TAFE course.

I know that because I myself got into the CS TAFE course there. It's 2 years full time. It also counts for one and a half or two years credit on a bachelors degree, depending on marks, and the degree.

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07-09-2008 08:32 PM
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Re: Alternatives to year 11 and 12?

liq3 Wrote:http://www.tafensw.edu.au/

Look around there for a uni or something that lets you use a TAFE course as credit, and doesn't require VCE to get into the TAFE course.

In VIC you can do a TAFE course at RMIT and literally skip year 11 and 12 and then move onto a bachelors degree after the TAFE course.

I know that because I myself got into the CS TAFE course there. It's 2 years full time. It also counts for one and a half or two years credit on a bachelors degree, depending on marks, and the degree.

Thanks Biggrin I found a page there about doing year 11 and 12 at tafe.

I don't fully understand though, when you say you can do a tafe course at rmit and skip year 11 and 12 and say 2 years full time does that mean that the tafe course takes 2 years?

ps Is that really rare and only with rmit or does it work with other universities as well?

pps If I fail year 11 would I still be able to do year 11 and 12 at tafe?
07-09-2008 08:44 PM
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Re: Alternatives to year 11 and 12?

I only don't know if any others do it. Also I don't mean do year 11 and 12 at TAFE... I mean do a TAFE course like Advanced Diploma of Computer Science. I got into that course after I finished year 10...I have never attended a year 11 class.

The requirements for the course to be able to be used to skip year 11 and 12 are basically...
[list=0]Don't need a HSC to get in.
It can count for credit towards a higher ed course (something someone with a HSC would get into)[/list]
That's about it.

Also, the way it skipped two years...Advanced Diploma of Computer Science, takes 2 years to complete. It gets who ever completed it (and passed) into a Bachelors Degree of Computer Science, or something in the same field, and counts for 2 years credit in said bachelors degree. So, someone with a HSC would take 3 years to do the bachelors degree. Someone with the ADCS would take 1 year. So, I would be quite literally skipping two years of school (11 and 12) by doing it. You'd be skipping year 12 if you find one...

You can of course just do year 11 and 12 in TAFE in you want.

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07-09-2008 09:06 PM
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Re: Alternatives to year 11 and 12?

Thanks a million Banana I think I get it now, I'll do some more research
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Wow. Australia isn't as fucked up as I thought... But don't get your hopes up, before the next election our Ruddy PM will have made something like No Child Left Unbrainwashed. Damn it Rudd!

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I was wondering if there are alternative ways to get into a bachelor of arts (psychology) without completing the hsc through a tafe course which counts towards the degree? *wishful thinking, maybe there's something I might've missed* I searched the tafensw site but didn't find anything... the problem is I don't want to do anything else at tafe, only if it would contribute to a psych degree. This might not make much sense, but I wouldn't mind doing say a librarian course without necessarily having it as a career; I'd like the tafe course to be equivalent to the hsc so I can avoid the hsc curriculum...

Is it possible to apply to an arts (psych) degree as a mature age student, or would I have to do a general arts degree and transfer? Would unis be less inclined to accept you if during the time you dropped out, you didn't work?

If only I could muster up some endurance to maximise my options but year 11 is making me anxious and depressed. I lack motivation and keep procrastinating my work. I wish completing the hsc wasn't the only way, or for the curriculum to at least be a little broader. This is probably my own fault for not moving to another school which offered two subjects I wanted to do- society and culture + studies of religion, but it is too late now. Year 11 is nearly over and my yearlys are in two weeks... I haven't studied and I have three assignments due by next week. If I continue to year 12 I'm doing it over two years via pathways (because I have a vision disability) but the thought of it is dreadful. If I hate school now, who says higher education will be even worth it? I have so many doubts and fears about leaving as well as staying.

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09-04-2009 11:47 AM
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spookycloud Wrote:I was wondering if there are alternative ways to get into a bachelor of arts (psychology) without completing the hsc through a tafe course which counts towards the degree? *wishful thinking, maybe there's something I might've missed* I searched the tafensw site but didn't find anything... the problem is I don't want to do anything else at tafe, only if it would contribute to a psych degree. This might not make much sense, but I wouldn't mind doing say a librarian course without necessarily having it as a career; I'd like the tafe course to be equivalent to the hsc so I can avoid the hsc curriculum...

Is it possible to apply to an arts (psych) degree as a mature age student, or would I have to do a general arts degree and transfer? Would unis be less inclined to accept you if during the time you dropped out, you didn't work?

If only I could muster up some endurance to maximise my options but year 11 is making me anxious and depressed. I lack motivation and keep procrastinating my work. I wish completing the hsc wasn't the only way, or for the curriculum to at least be a little broader. This is probably my own fault for not moving to another school which offered two subjects I wanted to do- society and culture + studies of religion, but it is too late now. Year 11 is nearly over and my yearlys are in two weeks... I haven't studied and I have three assignments due by next week. If I continue to year 12 I'm doing it over two years via pathways (because I have a vision disability) but the thought of it is dreadful. If I hate school now, who says higher education will be even worth it? I have so many doubts and fears about leaving as well as staying.

You didn't have to bump this ancient topic...

But I'm pretty sure you can't get into psych without the HSC. I do however know people who got in through going from the HSC to TAFE to uni after.

I'm not sure if you're already planning on doing this but since you live in NSW you can get out of school and finish the year 12 HSC course at TAFE. It'll be nothing like school and you can choose to do the HSC in 1-5 years(doing as many subjects as you like each year).
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Re: Alternatives to year 11 and 12? (Australia)

what you can do, which is a really really good idea if you want to specifically get away from a school environment is to complete year 11 and 12 (or just 12) at a Uni, which can offer you a lot of good things. free dress, other people that feel the same, a more adult environment and whatnot. I think this is a very good idea, depending on what you want to be doing.

Other than that, you can get into a TAFE course no prblem, but you should do it quickly as applications close at september 31'st.

Other than that...i wouldn't be quite sure.

However the first option of year 11 and 12 at a Uni, i wish i had of done that. I know a few people that do, and its the coolst thing.

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Well I do hate the school environment socially, but the reason I go here is because they have good learning support who help with my vision impairment. it's not so much that I hate doing work in the school environment but I hate the curriculum. If I decide to complete it, I'll be doing it over two years so I would consider tafe for the second year.

I wish unschooling was a valid means to graduating hs here :( Those big picture schools seem like a great idea but it will be too late as soon as they've been established.

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