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I'm Free!

I was totally not expecting it. For a long time, I had huge arguments and fights about wanting to unschool with my parents. The fights kept going. I was planning to refuse for so long. I had no doubt in my mind that I would have to refuse and my parents wouldn't let me unschool.

So I asked if I could just have a calm conversation about it. We sat down and had a conversation about it. At first, my parents were very hostile to it and saying that they won't let me do it. One thing led to another that caused my parents to make a compromise.

They said I could unschool. But at first we are going to have it a little more structured. I'm guessing that as my parents see it working they will make it more and more less structured.

But I can't even describe the joy and freedom I'm feeling right now. I feel like I have all the possibilities of the world in my hands.

:-)

"Freely",
Schoolhater234

Aint no power like the power of the people cause the power of the people don't stop!

I destroy my enemies when I make them my friends.
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Come children and students abide by our rules
we'll send in the troops to recruit at your schools
and we'll tell you it's noble, we'll tell you it's cool
and you'll hear every word that we're saying
and there's room in the jails if the classrooms are full
for the times, they are not a-changin'
come mothers and fathers and friends of the slain
while we exploit your loses to fund our campaigns
we brought you the war, now there's no one to blame
you best hope the new leader ain't crazy
you can vote how you want but the outcomes the same
for the times, they are not a-changin'
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08-05-2008 02:42 PM
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That's great to hear! Good for you- and nice job convincing your parents!
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08-05-2008 03:00 PM
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Congrats!

I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
08-05-2008 08:38 PM
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great job persuading your parents, im glad you were mature enough to sit down and have a civilised conversation.

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Quote:I was totally not expecting it. For a long time, I had huge arguments and fights about wanting to unschool with my parents. The fights kept going. I was planning to refuse for so long. I had no doubt in my mind that I would have to refuse and my parents wouldn't let me unschool.

So I asked if I could just have a calm conversation about it. We sat down and had a conversation about it. At first, my parents were very hostile to it and saying that they won't let me do it. One thing led to another that caused my parents to make a compromise.

They said I could unschool. But at first we are going to have it a little more structured. I'm guessing that as my parents see it working they will make it more and more less structured.

But I can't even describe the joy and freedom I'm feeling right now. I feel like I have all the possibilities of the world in my hands.

:-)

"Freely",
Schoolhater234

Good. Now go shit on the floor.

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08-05-2008 11:36 PM
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Quote:I was totally not expecting it. For a long time, I had huge arguments and fights about wanting to unschool with my parents. The fights kept going. I was planning to refuse for so long. I had no doubt in my mind that I would have to refuse and my parents wouldn't let me unschool.

So I asked if I could just have a calm conversation about it. We sat down and had a conversation about it. At first, my parents were very hostile to it and saying that they won't let me do it. One thing led to another that caused my parents to make a compromise.

They said I could unschool. But at first we are going to have it a little more structured. I'm guessing that as my parents see it working they will make it more and more less structured.

But I can't even describe the joy and freedom I'm feeling right now. I feel like I have all the possibilities of the world in my hands.

:-)

"Freely",
Schoolhater234

Good. Now go shit on the floor.

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08-06-2008 12:18 AM
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Quote:They said I could unschool. But at first we are going to have it a little more structured. I'm guessing that as my parents see it working they will make it more and more less structured.
I hope that works out for ya.... what kind of structure did they have in mind?

Congrats on getting them to take you seriously though. Hug

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