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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.
I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.
I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.
Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.
Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.
-SoulRiser
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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions?
It was just an opinion. Then YOU said it!!!
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01-24-2017 06:14 AM
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Superkamiguru
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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions?
(01-24-2017 06:14 AM)the Analogist Wrote: It was just an opinion. Then YOU said it!!!
U mad,bro?
Hidden stuff:
"CONSENSUAL incest is not wrong. (Abuse victims: being abused by a relative does not make it wrong for others to have consensual incest, any more than rape by a stranger makes all sex wrong. Sex and assault/molestation are two different things.) An aversion became common in humans that aided in population growth as one disease couldn't wipe out the human race. That's not a problem anymore.
Consensual incest is very common. You know people who have been involved, whether you know it or not.
There is no rational reason for keeping laws or taboos against consensual
incest that is consistently applied to other relationships. Personal disgust or religion is only a reason why one person would not want to personally engage in what I call consanguinamory, not why someone else shouldn't do it. An adult should be free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage with ANY consenting adults. Youthful experimentation between close relatives close in age is not uncommon, and there are more people than you'd think out there who are in lifelong healthy, happy relationships with a close relative. It isn't for everyone, but we're not all going to want to have each others' love lives, now are we? If someone thinks YOUR love life is disgusting, should you be thrown in prison?
Some people try to justify their prejudice against consanguineous sex and
marriage by being part-time eugenicists and saying that such relationships inevitably lead to “mutant” or “deformed” babies. This argument can be refuted on several fronts. 1. Some consanguineous relationships involve only people of the same gender. 2. Not all mixed-gender relationships birth biological children. 3. Most births to consanguineous parents do not produce children with significant birth defects or other genetic problems; while births to other parents do sometimes have birth defects. 4. We don’t prevent other people from marrying or deny them their reproductive rights based on increased odds of passing along a genetic problem or inherited disease. It is true that in general, children born to consanguineous parents have an increased chance of these problems than those born to nonconsanguineous parents, but the odds are still minimal. Unless someone is willing to deny reproductive rights and medical privacy to others and force everyone to take genetic tests and bar carriers and the congenitally disabled and women over 35 from having children, then equal protection principles prevent this from being a justification to bar this freedom of association and freedom to marry.
Some say "Your sibling should not be your lover." That is not a reason. It begs the question. Many people have many relationships that have more than one aspect. Some women say their sister is their best friend. Why can’t their sister be a wife, too?
Some say “There is a power differential.” This applies least of all to siblings or cousins who are close in age, but even where the power differential exists, it is not a justification for denying this freedom to sex or to marry. There is a power differential in just about any relationship, sometimes an enormous power differential. To question if consent is truly possible in these cases is insulting and demeaning.
Some say “There are so many people outside of your family." There are plenty of people within one’s own race, too, but that is no reason to ban interracial marriage. So, this isn't a good reason either. Let consenting adults love each other the way they want!"-Keith Pullman
01-24-2017 06:41 AM
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01-24-2017 08:55 AM
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Superkamiguru
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RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions?
(01-24-2017 08:55 AM)the Analogist Wrote: I'm just out of practice with trolling. Or I'm being counter trolled?...
Yes.
Hidden stuff:
"CONSENSUAL incest is not wrong. (Abuse victims: being abused by a relative does not make it wrong for others to have consensual incest, any more than rape by a stranger makes all sex wrong. Sex and assault/molestation are two different things.) An aversion became common in humans that aided in population growth as one disease couldn't wipe out the human race. That's not a problem anymore.
Consensual incest is very common. You know people who have been involved, whether you know it or not.
There is no rational reason for keeping laws or taboos against consensual
incest that is consistently applied to other relationships. Personal disgust or religion is only a reason why one person would not want to personally engage in what I call consanguinamory, not why someone else shouldn't do it. An adult should be free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage with ANY consenting adults. Youthful experimentation between close relatives close in age is not uncommon, and there are more people than you'd think out there who are in lifelong healthy, happy relationships with a close relative. It isn't for everyone, but we're not all going to want to have each others' love lives, now are we? If someone thinks YOUR love life is disgusting, should you be thrown in prison?
Some people try to justify their prejudice against consanguineous sex and
marriage by being part-time eugenicists and saying that such relationships inevitably lead to “mutant” or “deformed” babies. This argument can be refuted on several fronts. 1. Some consanguineous relationships involve only people of the same gender. 2. Not all mixed-gender relationships birth biological children. 3. Most births to consanguineous parents do not produce children with significant birth defects or other genetic problems; while births to other parents do sometimes have birth defects. 4. We don’t prevent other people from marrying or deny them their reproductive rights based on increased odds of passing along a genetic problem or inherited disease. It is true that in general, children born to consanguineous parents have an increased chance of these problems than those born to nonconsanguineous parents, but the odds are still minimal. Unless someone is willing to deny reproductive rights and medical privacy to others and force everyone to take genetic tests and bar carriers and the congenitally disabled and women over 35 from having children, then equal protection principles prevent this from being a justification to bar this freedom of association and freedom to marry.
Some say "Your sibling should not be your lover." That is not a reason. It begs the question. Many people have many relationships that have more than one aspect. Some women say their sister is their best friend. Why can’t their sister be a wife, too?
Some say “There is a power differential.” This applies least of all to siblings or cousins who are close in age, but even where the power differential exists, it is not a justification for denying this freedom to sex or to marry. There is a power differential in just about any relationship, sometimes an enormous power differential. To question if consent is truly possible in these cases is insulting and demeaning.
Some say “There are so many people outside of your family." There are plenty of people within one’s own race, too, but that is no reason to ban interracial marriage. So, this isn't a good reason either. Let consenting adults love each other the way they want!"-Keith Pullman
RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions?
food stamps and bombing brown people
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What are some of your most controversial opinions?
If I were to even explain my dating views to a feminist, I'd instantly be laughed at. I'd prefer to pay for the woman (although millennial SJW feminists don't seem to mind, hypocrites) and I wouldn't mind acting like a gentleman. I want a delicate flower in the future. I like innocence and purity, most of all, positivity.
What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Abortion is wrong unless used to save the mother's life or the baby would be dead-on-arrival. Of course, I still want it to be legal to avoid dangerous back-alley abortions. Some religious in my area are kinda crazy about this anti-abortion thing though. I try to avoid them.
RE: What are some of your most controversial opinions?
(02-09-2017 12:44 AM)Sadly_Not Wrote: Abortion is wrong unless used to save the mother's life or the baby would be dead-on-arrival. Of course, I still want it to be legal to avoid dangerous back-alley abortions. Some religious in my area are kinda crazy about this anti-abortion thing though. I try to avoid them.
Totally agree. I wonder why School Survival doesn't address this often, it's a form of age discrimination after all.
What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Ultimately, every argument for or against abortion I've heard is tainted by ageism.
I don't know whether or not to believe in Oppositional Defiant Disorder, but I do believe in Sycophantic Compliant Disorder since I've seen it in action.
I think that it's people's rights to own pets as long as the pets are well cared for, but apparently some people disagree.
I think people need to stop picking on Christians just to be edgy. We're not all bigots, and it only distracts people to the real bigotry to conflate it with religion. This goes for every other religion, and for the other reasons that come with it. People need to stop judging religions by their worst followers.
Publishers need to put content warnings in books, and for that matter movies need more specific content warnings. Not age recommendations, but content warnings.
Psychiatrists need to shape up and listen to their patients and stop assuming whether or not we need medication when they have insufficient information.
For that matter, one shouldn't have a diagnosis in their file until they've been properly evaluated for it.
Dyspraxia exists.
Sensitivity and crisis intervention training should be mandatory for police officers, teachers, and anything that walks on two legs.
Pet care should be a part of core curriculum so that people don't buy pets that they don't know how to take care of.
Official diagnoses must be intertwined with self-diagnoses.
Mainstream music should embrace folk punk, sea shanties, and polkas.
(This post was last modified: 04-30-2017 09:04 AM by DreamRebel.)