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Communist bastard here.

Hello.

(how do i get a avatar and signiture?)


I am from england and iam a member of revleft ( http://www.revleft.com/vb/ ). I support the IWW afed and antifa.

Looking forward to spending time in this fourm.

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Velcome comrade, let me be the first to welcome you to our happy medicated world of insane bliss, you may drop your sanity into the chute market "furnace" by the door.

I am Zero, the resident pervert and among the craziest/weirdest members here.

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Re: Communist bastard here.

I bet you're one of those assholes that think 9/11 was an inside job.

Those are the worst...

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Re: Communist bastard here.

Hello patron, due to recent events I feel it is my duty to warn you of coming here. This site promisses (or at least soul does, but she isnt the problem) a free thinking environment. However this is simply not the case. If your views match the following there is a very good chance that you too will be persecuted and rideculed for your belifes;
Belife in god
Belive in government ability and action
Belive in a standing military
Belive that 9/11 was not a government scheme
Belive that fighting for freedom is needed
Belife in personal opinions
Belife in personal morals that do not align with the grater majority
Belife that everyone should be shown respect
Belife that everyone is entitled to an opinon
Belife that everyone is alllowed to voice this opinon freely
Freedom of persecution for belifes
Freedom of persecution for opinions
Freedom of persecution of religion
...
The list goes on and on.

If you feel that you are safe to stay, then do so, otherwise I must advise for your own 'safty' that you leave and avoid this intolerance alltogether.

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Quote:Hello patron, due to recent events I feel it is my duty to warn you of coming here. This site promisses (or at least soul does, but she isnt the problem) a free thinking environment. However this is simply not the case. If your views match the following there is a very good chance that you too will be persecuted and rideculed for your belifes;
Laugh
True.
Man, I miss the days when christians and satanists could have civilized discussions on the same thread without throwing any insults around.

Also, welcome. Wave

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hey, i used to do a straight jacket welcome, but that got old. if you wannt to see it fond a fairly recent welcome threaad. you get an avatar and sig bia the user control panel, i beleive. the link for this is located under 'your stuff' in the top, right hand corner of the page.

welcome new recruit, and yes zero, you are among the weirdest here.

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Welcome

I think Alucard is exaggerating a bit, but we'll try to be nice. ;P

(Or I will, anyway. I suppose I can't make promises for everyone else. =P)

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Alucard483 Wrote:Hello patron, due to recent events I feel it is my duty to warn you of coming here. This site promisses (or at least soul does, but she isnt the problem) a free thinking environment. However this is simply not the case. If your views match the following there is a very good chance that you too will be persecuted and rideculed for your belifes;
Belife in god
Belive in government ability and action
Belive in a standing military
Belive that 9/11 was not a government scheme
Belive that fighting for freedom is needed
Belife in personal opinions
Belife in personal morals that do not align with the grater majority
Belife that everyone should be shown respect
Belife that everyone is entitled to an opinon
Belife that everyone is alllowed to voice this opinon freely
Freedom of persecution for belifes
Freedom of persecution for opinions
Freedom of persecution of religion
...
The list goes on and on.

If you feel that you are safe to stay, then do so, otherwise I must advise for your own 'safty' that you leave and avoid this intolerance alltogether.

Not to mention "being conservative". How dare someone lean to the right of the political spectrum??

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Yeah, and if you don't accept the challenge, expect to be nagged at until the end of eternity, or until you give in and blindly accept the challenger's version of whatever, just to get them to STFU. Razz

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I hate commies. How does more Government control make a place better?

Anyway, hello.
(Note, I won't hate you unless you flaunt that you are a commie in every post.)
P.S. Joe McCarthy was a idiot.

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hey companero, personally i'm anarchist but i know plenty of commies and frankly, they're not that bad. especially when they get drunk and tell stores about protesting in the 60s. i certainly get along with them better than with capitalists, and they write kickass songs too. welcome aboard.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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SoulRiser Wrote:Man, I miss the days when christians and satanists could have civilized discussions on the same thread without throwing any insults around.

Also, welcome. Wave

Quote:Music here.

Amber called her uncle, said, "We're up here for the holiday,
Jane and I were having Solstice, now we need a place to stay."
And her Christ-loving uncle watched his wife hang Mary on a tree,
He watched his son hang candy canes all made with red dye number three.
He told his niece, "It's Christmas eve, I know our life is not your style,"
She said, "Christmas is like Solstice, and we miss you and it's been a while."

So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table,
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able,
And just before the meal was served, hands were held and prayers were said,
Sending hope for peace on earth to all their gods and goddesses.

The food was great, the tree plugged in, the meal had gone without a hitch,
Till Timmy turned to Amber and said, "Is it true that you're a witch?"
His mom jumped up and said, "The pies are burning," and she hit the kitchen,
And it was Jane who spoke, she said, "It's true, you're cousin's not a Christian,
But we love trees, we love the snow, the friends we have, the world we share,
And you find magic from your God, and we find magic everywhere."

So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table,
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able,
And where does magic come from , I think magic's in the learning,
'Cause now when Christians sit with Pagans only pumpkin pies are burning.

When Amber tried to do the dishes, her aunt said, "Really, no, don't bother."
Amber's uncle saw how Amber looked like Tim and like her father.
He thought about his brother, how they hadn't spoken in a year,
He thought he'd call him up and say, "It's Christmas and your daughter's here."
He thought of fathers, sons and brothers, saw his own son tug his sleeve,
Saying, "Can I be a Pagan?" Dad said, "We'll discuss it when they leave."

So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table,
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able,
Lighting trees in darkness, learning new ways from the old,
And making sense of history and drawing warmth out of the cold.

Let's do the time warp again!
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Rebelnerd Wrote:hey companero, personally i'm anarchist but i know plenty of commies and frankly, they're not that bad. especially when they get drunk and tell stores about protesting in the 60s. i certainly get along with them better than with capitalists, and they write kickass songs too. welcome aboard.


IM an anarcho-communist.

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AH, now we're talking.

communism: the government controls everything. ideally anyone can become president but in reality it doesn't work that way.

capitalism: the rich control everything. ideally anyone can become wealthy but in reality it doesn't work that way.

frankly, i'm not sure which is worse. anarchism FTW.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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HC, I was literally moved by those songs lyrics. I was tearing.

Welcome

I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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Hey comrade.
What? You're a communist?

I'm about as far from a commie as you could get. I prefer Mises over Marx any day.

But we should be friends, just make sure you refine your arguments before you debate me.
I like debating. Even if I "lose".

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Rebelnerd Wrote:AH, now we're talking.

communism: the government controls everything. ideally anyone can become president but in reality it doesn't work that way.

capitalism: the rich control everything. ideally anyone can become wealthy but in reality it doesn't work that way.

frankly, i'm not sure which is worse. anarchism FTW.

If an area is to be communist is must be anarchist. Even the lennists admit this they just go for some damn stupid road though "socialism" which plonks em back to capitalism.

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Yeah, Lenin&Co. of course were not true communist. It can work on a small scale, but I think the problem with nationwide communism is that people are too far removed from the products of their labor to really care, so they don't work as hard. Because of this the only way the government can maintain their economic status is punishing and controlling everyone to make sure they meet their quota. So any attempt at projecting communism over anything larger than individual towns or communes inevitable dissolves into totalitarionism or a propaganda state.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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Actually, I wouldn't mind living in one like that. So long as there was a capitalist world outside that I could trade with or assimilate into when I wanted to leave.

People don't realize communism and capitalism can live side-by-side. They're like "VIVA LA REVOLUTION!" or "NO MORE TARRIFS!". It's more like, "If we make capitalism more free then communism can exist within it as small voluntary communities."

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that sounds alright, as long as there are safeguards in place to prevent the capitalists from gaining too much control over the nation's economy. i know the origional idea of capitalism was the individual's freedom to succeed with his own inenuity, without being tied down by the group, and i like that. but the problem is that once someone suceeds, they have the ability to influence the market in their favor. what was origionally a fair playing field where anyone could get rich if they were smart or hardworking enough becomes a world where only the friends/family/brownosers of the rich can make it to the top. after one round, the game is rigged. its like if every time you played monopoly you gave all the money to the last game's winner. i mean let's face it, it doesn't matter how many rags-to-riches stories they can write: there will always be a massive segment of the population who will always be poor. and it's not because they're lazy or stupid, they just weren't born in the right conditions or don't know the right people. if there was a way to reset the market after each generation died, then we might have something. but when rich people make it big, they keep that power and give it to whoever they want. what this results in is essentially "capitalist dynasties," the end of equal opportunity, and the betrayal of the ideals capitalism was based on.

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I've always been trying to address the problems with a fre capitalist system like I advocate, I've come to some conclusions:

There's always room for more, just because there are existing corporations doesn't me new ingenuity can't make another.

And to have only the same old people in a "capitalist dynasty" is counter-productive. There always needs to be new innovation, and it comes from all over the board.

And there's nothing wrong with some people being poor, some middle class, and others rich. Just as long as all those people have the same rights it doesn't matter.


Sure, it isn't the best argument, but I'm not the smartest cookie either.

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dogman32 Wrote:Actually, I wouldn't mind living in one like that. So long as there was a capitalist world outside that I could trade with or assimilate into when I wanted to leave.

People don't realize communism and capitalism can live side-by-side. They're like "VIVA LA REVOLUTION!" or "NO MORE TARRIFS!". It's more like, "If we make capitalism more free then communism can exist within it as small voluntary communities."


The Anarcho-communists often belive that people should be allowed to go at set up capitlist sociteies if they wish aslong as you let people leave.

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dogman32 Wrote:I've always been trying to address the problems with a fre capitalist system like I advocate, I've come to some conclusions:

There's always room for more, just because there are existing corporations doesn't me new ingenuity can't make another.

And to have only the same old people in a "capitalist dynasty" is counter-productive. There always needs to be new innovation, and it comes from all over the board.

And there's nothing wrong with some people being poor, some middle class, and others rich. Just as long as all those people have the same rights it doesn't matter.
Well do we mean poor like not being able to afford a TV or poor like potbellied babies dropping dead on a street in Sudan? I think something's very wrong with the latter.

The problem I see with your first point is that while yes, ingenuity and hard work should allow people who have good ideas to rise to success, the problem is that for every one who succeeds there are many more who are suppressed, too busy finding the basic necessities to worry about business, or have their ideas stolen by other companies. like i said, ideally it's a perfect system but the game gets thrown out of wack by the rich and becomes no longer fair.

Quote:Sure, it isn't the best argument, but I'm not the smartest cookie either.
Eh, I kind of enjoy this. It's nice to debate it with someone's who's not A. and idiot or B. a fanatic who won't even defend their points because they think it's self-explanatory.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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Rebelnerd Wrote:Well do we mean poor like not being able to afford a TV or poor like potbellied babies dropping dead on a street in Sudan? I think something's very wrong with the latter.

If a global laissez faire capitalistic system was in place then there would be very few people like that since business would be good. I'm not going to say some people won't be starving, but there are starving people everywhere, and there has been throughout every time period. I'm just saying there will probably be less starving people, since there will be a job for nearly everyone. It may not pay for TV, but it would pay for food, water, clothes, shelter, and transport.

I'm not advocating a "solve all your problems" system like some people do, I'm advocating a system based on natural law.
Quote:The problem I see with your first point is that while yes, ingenuity and hard work should allow people who have good ideas to rise to success, the problem is that for every one who succeeds there are many more who are suppressed, too busy finding the basic necessities to worry about business, or have their ideas stolen by other companies. like i said, ideally it's a perfect system but the game gets thrown out of wack by the rich and becomes no longer fair.

The "game" would never be out of whack. Does it have to be fair? No, life is not fair. Poor people will find it easier to become middle class than filthy rich, and middle class will find it easier to be lower upper class than business tycoons.

And business tycoons are always looking for the next "big thing", it doesn't matter if the person who comes up with it is rich or poor. Black or white. That person will still get freaking rich.

And idea stealing happens even now. Like I said, life isn't fair. You can't make the world perfect.
You can only make it easier to live in without going insane.

Quote:Eh, I kind of enjoy this. It's nice to debate it with someone's who's not A. and idiot or B. a fanatic who won't even defend their points because they think it's self-explanatory.

I do too.
Of course sometimes I catch myself being a fanatic, mostly about video games, music, movies, and books.
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i'll reply to that later, right now i've just smashed my toe jumping over a chair and so my computer time is limited by "learning to walk on crutches" lessons. Rolleyes

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In Soviet Russia, New is You!

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10-04-2008 12:59 PM
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In Soviet Russia, the democrats vote for YOU!

no srsly we NEED to vote Obama, my politics teacher is going to shave his head if Obama loses. Srsly, not a good idea.

Fuck McCain
10-07-2008 04:41 AM
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Lucie Wrote:In Soviet Russia, the democrats vote for YOU!

no srsly we NEED to vote Obama, my politics teacher is going to shave his head if Obama loses. Srsly, not a good idea.
I hope he loses, and I hope McCain gets shot 5 weeks into office.
I also hope Palin runs the country into the ground.

Then maybe America will listen to reason.

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10-08-2008 12:44 PM
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i vote to go charles whitman on palian, hate her..fucking women

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10-09-2008 01:43 PM
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W-Dog32 Wrote:Actually, I wouldn't mind living in one like that. So long as there was a capitalist world outside that I could trade with or assimilate into when I wanted to leave.

People don't realize communism and capitalism can live side-by-side. They're like "VIVA LA REVOLUTION!" or "NO MORE TARRIFS!". It's more like, "If we make capitalism more free then communism can exist within it as small voluntary communities."

REMINDS ME OF A JOKE!!!

person 1: So do you think it would be possible for communism to work in just one country?
person 2: yes, but I'd rather live in another.

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10-10-2008 04:55 AM
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