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The Total Transformation Scam (aka The Total Brainwashing)
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RE: The Total Transformation Scam (aka The Total Brainwashing)

Actually, I think that program is trying to help you guys learn how to cope with adults and it targets their weaknesses as well (from what I've read...could be BS). It tries to make parents stop acting like victims and to allow freedom of choice (such as a choice between dishes and taking out garbage offers).

However, THIS stuff (the World Wide Association of Specialty Schools, which went by many names) is awful and scary:

http://reason.com/archives/2007/06/27/ro...-and-teens

"The suit alleges that teens were locked in outdoor dog cages, exercised to exhaustion, deprived of food and sleep, exposed to extreme temperatures without adequate clothing or water, severely beaten, emotionally brutalized, and sexually abused and humiliated. Some were even made to eat their own vomit."

In this case, the parents gave their responsibility to psychopaths who in turn tried to make little psychopaths out of the kids in their care. THAT is brainwashing.

Mitt Romney's friends under investigation in several countries for this abuse. Be sure to show your parents.
04-04-2012 12:44 AM
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Yes, these camps are much much worse, but this ass hat is still in the wrong. /ss/ is no stranger to wwasp or other behavior modification camps, but im pretty sure i speak for the majority when i say this brainwashing program is full of shit and is just another way to control powerless youth who rebel due to a lack of freedom.

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Fair enough. Just pointing out two key differences. The South Park comment is not completely wrong actually. One thing the Dog Whisperer really stresses is that it is the dog owner at fault 99% of the time, not the dog. I would agree it is usually a parental issue but that the parents feel in over their heads.

The other difference being it involves the parents and in fact puts the onus on them. Yeah, it sounds totalitarian, but respect (for both the parent and the child) is also stressed.

(When I first saw the TTP I was afraid it was WWASSP. I was relieved to find out it did not involve cages and torture).

It is, I suppose, brainwashing to the extent that what they are trying to convey is yes you have choices, but in making them there are consequences. It is trying to make you, to some extent, "fit in." Without the ability to deal with others later in life, coping is difficult. It's natural to feel like they are trying to take away your individuality.

But they can't really do that. You might feel oppressed, but unless and until they actually control your brain, you are still you. Hang in there, it actually does get better. I'm really old and still have major issues with authority (and have fun with them at the same time! Smile ).

Anyway, that dude in the commercials died fairly recently. His family and business running itself now. And it's under a lot of scrutiny in part thanks to people like you asking questions. That's key!
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Yeah, its definitely a lot better than cages and torture. Im eighteen and dont really have to deal with parents much any more, i just think youth should be given enough freedon and what not to actually grow as a person and avoid bein to sheltered. And all of that.

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Anything that's based on trying to manipulate people to do what you want them to do instead of trying to understand/respect their point of view, is wrong and shouldn't be used. With the obvious exception of life or death situations, but those are actually quite rare.

In a way, subtle manipulations can even be worse precisely because they don't seem that bad, so people just accept them as being okay. They're not.

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My parents bought this for me. It pissed me off because of the irony in it. I'm usually quiet and calm. When I meet someone, I treat them with mutual respect. I don't look at skin color, I don't look at age - I look at you. If you treat me like shit, I WILL return the favor. It happens that my parents are dildos to me all the time, and I find this program rather offensive. My parents don't like it when I tell them my feelings, so I tell other people much to their chagrin.
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You are getting very sleepy … Your eyelids are getting heavy …

Now, when I snap my fingers, you shall become a conformist robot. *SNAP*

And it is rumored, at that exact moment, "Family Guy" was canceled.
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When "fix your children" crap goes too far
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Obviously parents who are on here complaining about this system must not be doing their job right raising their kids. You shouldn't even have kids if you are not doing it right(parenting)!!!
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(03-13-2013 05:55 AM)Jjb1 Wrote:  Obviously parents who are on here complaining about this system must not be doing their job right raising their kids. You shouldn't even have kids if you are not doing it right(parenting)!!!

I'm perplexed by this comment. My mind must be boggled because what I understand is that if you complain about a deceptive system that tries to brainwash teens, your not doing a good job raising your kid. From this, I deduce that to be a good parent, you must subject your teen to brainwashing and third party involvement in family business.

Now involving a third party into parenting thus means that the parent is not capable of parenting. Thus from this, I understood from you comment that to be good at parenting, you must let others parent for you because that's what true parenting is? Whereas parenting that involves parents is not a type of parenting because you would thus not be doing the job right.

This is what I seem to get from the post.

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